[mchFree] [MCH] Digest Number 1740
- From: "Mike the mod" <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:38:50 -0700
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: UPDATE - Closing Topic ON FIREWALL & ANTI-VIRUS!
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
2. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
4. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
6. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
7. Free Spyware Program Maybe
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Lavasoft Adaware Forums
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Lavasoft Adaware Forums
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: Free Spyware Program Maybe
From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx>
11. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Christopher J. & Jo-Ann J. Spilker"
<CHRIS-JO-ANN-SPILKER@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
16. Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: Network fails to Internet on all but one machine
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
18. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
20. Re: Free Spyware Program Maybe
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
21. Re: Help please
From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx>
22. Re: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
23. Re: Help please
From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx>
24. Re: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
25. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: UPDATE - Closing Topic ON FIREWALL & ANTI-VIRUS!
Good work, Sheila!!
Sheila Perkins <simpleerose@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have installed the FREE ZONE ALARM and AVG, now It is Stealth and The
LeakTest Passed as well!
I will never purchase Zone Alarm Security Suite as thre was something that
made it go to safe mode. Perhaps the Free version will work since it hasn't
got all the bells and whistles and perhaps will run fine!
Thanks to Everyone, as your input was very important to find my security
solution!!!!!
Everything is running well so far without complications, hope it stays that
way!
Your imput is valuable and appreciated. I also have other options from you
guys if I run into trouble!
Thanks To All Of You!
Sheila
From: foofaraw in the middle <foofaraw_in_the_middle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [MCH] UPDATE ON FIREWALL & ANTI-VIRUS!
Here are some explanation of Kerio's configuration settings:
http://www.hackfix.org/software/configure/tiny.html
If you are a member of MCH Forums, Sean posted an article on Kerio here:
http://s11.invisionfree.com/SpunkyMcSpank/index.php?showtopic=13&st=0
It is a very good starting point to get more info on Kerio.
John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, the Leak Test revealed a vulnerability in your firewall configuration.
I do not use Kerio, but I assume that there would be a module that will
allow you to set program permissions in the firewall, and that is where you
will need to set the "Deny" (or similar wording) for the GR Leaktest.
Then try again and the leaktest should not be able to dial out....which
means a successful test of your firewall.
Hmmmmm, I thought that there was some advice on this whenever you activate
the Gibson Research Leaktest??
John Lehn
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simplyrose2000 <simpleerose@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have installed Kerio and Have installed NOD32.
> I ran these two test:
> SHEILDS-UP TEST:
> GRC Port Authority Report created on UTC: 2006-04-21
> at 08:00:08
> Results from scan of ports: 0-1055
>
> 0 Ports Open
> 0 Ports Closed
> 1056 Ports Stealth
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> 1056 Ports Tested
> ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH.
> TruStealth: PASSED - ALL tested ports were STEALTH,
> - NO unsolicited packets were received,
> - NO Ping reply (ICMP Echo) was received.
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LeakTest: Firewall Leakage Tester v1.2
said: Firewall Penetrated LeakTest WAS ABLE to connect to the mais GRC.COM
Web Server!
LeakTest was not prevented from connecting to the Gibson Research web
server. You either have no firewall, you have delibertly allowed LeakTest
to
connect outbound, or (if neither of those), LeakTest has just slipped past
your firewall's outbound "protection", if any.
____________________________________________
Now, does the LeakTest mean anything?
If so, what do you all think?
Sheila
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:07:38 -0400
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Seantific
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:49 PM
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
There should be an option for a NON-DESTRUCTIVE RESTORE. Most PC have this
feature but sometimes you have to ask the PC manufacturer how to do it. But
it is in the hands of the PC medic now. Hopefully he will do the right
thing.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim - The repair option IS that option and it works well without losing
anything.
Melody - I have no idea what a "Reboot" CD is! I hope he knows what he is
doing.
The correct Dell CD should be as you described and is probably purple. If
he said that NOT the correct one, you're in trouble!
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Melody,
>Thanks everyone! but it is now at the computer Dr. in town...he assures me
>he won't lose my data and is glad it didnt' work with my boot CD cuz I
>would have lost it all...he said that CD I have is the reboot CD ..
Be sure to report what he did and whether any data was lost. I think that
there is an option to repair an XP installation without destroying data, but
I don't know whether it works, or whether it manages to save the data.
Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
Good info to know, Mark, when dealing with DELLs. Everyone, take note pls.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
There should be an option for a NON-DESTRUCTIVE RESTORE. Most PC have this
feature but sometimes you have to ask the PC manufacturer how to do it. But
it is in the hands of the PC medic now. Hopefully he will do the right
thing.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim - The repair option IS that option and it works well without losing
anything.
Melody - I have no idea what a "Reboot" CD is! I hope he knows what he is
doing.
The correct Dell CD should be as you described and is probably purple. If
he said that NOT the correct one, you're in trouble!
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Melody,
>Thanks everyone! but it is now at the computer Dr. in town...he assures me
>he won't lose my data and is glad it didnt' work with my boot CD cuz I
>would have lost it all...he said that CD I have is the reboot CD ..
Be sure to report what he did and whether any data was lost. I think that
there is an option to repair an XP installation without destroying data, but
I don't know whether it works, or whether it manages to save the data.
Jim
This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what
Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the
Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us. -- Rev. Jerry
Falwell
Carl Rove at his best: http://rboland.dyndns.org/RoveasCrook.jpg
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:00:08 -0400
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
P.S. These days, you have to order the CD when you order the Dell - $10
extra - GET IT!
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of casper
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:22 AM
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Good info to know, Mark, when dealing with DELLs. Everyone, take note pls.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
There should be an option for a NON-DESTRUCTIVE RESTORE. Most PC have this
feature but sometimes you have to ask the PC manufacturer how to do it. But
it is in the hands of the PC medic now. Hopefully he will do the right
thing.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim - The repair option IS that option and it works well without losing
anything.
Melody - I have no idea what a "Reboot" CD is! I hope he knows what he is
doing.
The correct Dell CD should be as you described and is probably purple. If
he said that NOT the correct one, you're in trouble!
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Melody,
>Thanks everyone! but it is now at the computer Dr. in town...he assures me
>he won't lose my data and is glad it didnt' work with my boot CD cuz I
>would have lost it all...he said that CD I have is the reboot CD ..
Be sure to report what he did and whether any data was lost. I think that
there is an option to repair an XP installation without destroying data, but
I don't know whether it works, or whether it manages to save the data.
Jim
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:11:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
Amen to that!
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
P.S. These days, you have to order the CD when you order the Dell - $10
extra - GET IT!
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Good info to know, Mark, when dealing with DELLs. Everyone, take note pls.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
There should be an option for a NON-DESTRUCTIVE RESTORE. Most PC have this
feature but sometimes you have to ask the PC manufacturer how to do it. But
it is in the hands of the PC medic now. Hopefully he will do the right
thing.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim - The repair option IS that option and it works well without losing
anything.
Melody - I have no idea what a "Reboot" CD is! I hope he knows what he is
doing.
The correct Dell CD should be as you described and is probably purple. If
he said that NOT the correct one, you're in trouble!
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Melody,
>Thanks everyone! but it is now at the computer Dr. in town...he assures me
>he won't lose my data and is glad it didnt' work with my boot CD cuz I
>would have lost it all...he said that CD I have is the reboot CD ..
Be sure to report what he did and whether any data was lost. I think that
there is an option to repair an XP installation without destroying data, but
I don't know whether it works, or whether it manages to save the data.
Jim
This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what
Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the
Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us. -- Rev. Jerry
Falwell
Carl Rove at his best: http://rboland.dyndns.org/RoveasCrook.jpg
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
Amen to that!
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
P.S. These days, you have to order the CD when you order the Dell - $10
extra - GET IT!
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Good info to know, Mark, when dealing with DELLs. Everyone, take note pls.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
There should be an option for a NON-DESTRUCTIVE RESTORE. Most PC have this
feature but sometimes you have to ask the PC manufacturer how to do it. But
it is in the hands of the PC medic now. Hopefully he will do the right
thing.
Mark Mucher <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim - The repair option IS that option and it works well without losing
anything.
Melody - I have no idea what a "Reboot" CD is! I hope he knows what he is
doing.
The correct Dell CD should be as you described and is probably purple. If
he said that NOT the correct one, you're in trouble!
Mark
_____
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Melody,
>Thanks everyone! but it is now at the computer Dr. in town...he assures me
>he won't lose my data and is glad it didnt' work with my boot CD cuz I
>would have lost it all...he said that CD I have is the reboot CD ..
Be sure to report what he did and whether any data was lost. I think that
there is an option to repair an XP installation without destroying data, but
I don't know whether it works, or whether it manages to save the data.
Jim
This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what
Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the
Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us. -- Rev. Jerry
Falwell
Carl Rove at his best: http://rboland.dyndns.org/RoveasCrook.jpg
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Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just
2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:04:44 -0000
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Free Spyware Program Maybe
While reading some news on one of my favorite free sites that does
not list Spyware or Adware I found a new listing for this program.
So far 5 people have given it good reviews. Not unlike Adaware it
has a full version for a cost and a limited version for free to
entice you to purchase the full version.
Just wondering if anyone here has see or tried it on an infected
machine? I did test it on what I figure was a clean machine and of
course the program did not find anyting.
It did seem to work ok but a bit slower than the others. Could be
too I was running it on an 733 with XP.
Ya know it is so hard to trust Spyware programs because of the bad
rap some of these companies give that really are bad news. It is
also hard to trust a program you do not know that starts deleting
things from your machine.
I am just hoping this could turn out to be the next additional tool
we can all add to the rest of our other pile of programs to combat
the not so nice people our there always looking to break our
machines.
The Program
Superantispyware
Link http://tinyurl.com/r9oqs
Place I saw it reviwed
Link http://tinyurl.com/q9uzv
Vince
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:19:33 -0000
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Lavasoft Adaware Forums
I don't know if I missed something here one day or not but the forums
for Adaware are back up and running. It appears only been a short time
by the number of people registered.
http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/
Vince
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:48:53 -0000
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lavasoft Adaware Forums
Did some snooping around, the board has been up 3 weeks. Atleast it
appears member number 1 joined on 04/04/06.
--- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vince" <timechaser@...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know if I missed something here one day or not but the
forums
> for Adaware are back up and running. It appears only been a short
time
> by the number of people registered.
>
> http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/
>
> Vince
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:15:21 +0930
From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Free Spyware Program Maybe
Get "Spybot search & destroy", it's free and not crippled.
Check out this if you are not sure about anti-spyware software:
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
On 25/04/06, Vince <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> While reading some news on one of my favorite free sites that does
> not list Spyware or Adware I found a new listing for this program.
>
> So far 5 people have given it good reviews. Not unlike Adaware it
> has a full version for a cost and a limited version for free to
> entice you to purchase the full version.
>
> Just wondering if anyone here has see or tried it on an infected
> machine? I did test it on what I figure was a clean machine and of
> course the program did not find anyting.
>
> It did seem to work ok but a bit slower than the others. Could be
> too I was running it on an 733 with XP.
>
> Ya know it is so hard to trust Spyware programs because of the bad
> rap some of these companies give that really are bad news. It is
> also hard to trust a program you do not know that starts deleting
> things from your machine.
>
> I am just hoping this could turn out to be the next additional tool
> we can all add to the rest of our other pile of programs to combat
> the not so nice people our there always looking to break our
> machines.
>
> The Program
> Superantispyware
> Link http://tinyurl.com/r9oqs
>
> Place I saw it reviwed
> Link http://tinyurl.com/q9uzv
>
> Vince
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:08:44 -0400
From: "Christopher J. & Jo-Ann J. Spilker"
<CHRIS-JO-ANN-SPILKER@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
Re: "P.S. These days, you have to order the CD when you order
the Dell - $10
extra - GET IT!"
AMEN! to that.
Regards,
Christopher J. Spilker
mailto:chris-jo-ann-spilker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark
Mucher
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April, 2006 6:00 AM
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
P.S. These days, you have to order the CD when you order the
Dell - $10
extra - GET IT!
Mark
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:21:36 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
Seantific,
> What about telemarketers? hehe
The difference is that I do not have to deal with telemarketers. I have an
answering machine and these days many if not most of them have atodialers
and so they ignore answering machines. At least that is to what I attribute
getting so many hangups.
Jim
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:23:38 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
Seantific,
>Jim, did you try resetting the router? Usually there is a small button you
>can press & hold for several seconds then release it to reset the router.
Did you not read my message? Yes, I actaully powered it down just in case
the cmos memory does not reset with the button. I have also used the
ipconfig/release and /refresh commands. No change.
Jim
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:26:31 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
To all, I really appreciate replies when I post a problem, but so many
people seem not to read messages, they suggest things that I have done and
have said that I did. So I will not reply to such message, just to save my
own nerves and avoid redundent messages to the grup.
Jim
> At 10:01 PM 4/24/2006, Seantific wrote:
>>Jim, did you try resetting the router? Usually there is a small
>>button you can press & hold for several seconds then release it to
>>reset the router.
>
> Press and release might reset the router. Press and hold usually
> resets to the factory defaults -- losing your password and other
> settings -- and if it's wireless, losing your channel, encryption
> type, encryption setting and more.
>
> This is a last resort, since you will have to reconfigure your
> wireless after that. If wired, it's not as bad, but remember to set
> a password on the router. You might want to cruise through the
> router's setup screens and make a note of the settings before doing a
> factory default reset.
>
> A power-off/power-on of the router might solve the problem.
>
> Regarding your experience hooking the modem directly to the
> computers, you'd have to power it off FOR EACH MACHINE.
>
> The modem's ethernet interface knows the MAC address of at the other
> end of your Ethernet cable. Just hooking it to a different machine
> won't work. You'd have to hook it up and then power up the modem and
> reboot the computer (so the computer gets an IP address on the
> cable/dsl ISP's network.
>
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>>jimpurcell2001 <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I'm reposting my problem as a last resort
>>
>>Here's my setup:
>>
>>Four computers on a router and of course a cable modem provinding
>>internet access. Three of the computers were on one side of a single
>>desk, the fourth was on another desk same room.
>>
>>Everyhing was working fine, all machines see each other on the
>>network, all machines have internet access.
>>
>>I wanted to move the three computers to the other side of that desk,
>>this involved unplugging everyhing to move the computers. I moved
>>them then reconnected the cables. Oops! No networking, no internet.
>>I can't recall for cetein wheht the lone computer that internets now
>>had internet at first.
>>
>>I took the router out of the mix, connecting the cable modem to one
>>machine at a time, only the one that now has internet, worked. The
>>others did not work with only the cable modem connected to each
>>machines NIC. I then turned off the modem for couple of minutes,
>>thinking that it was a configuration problem between the modem and
>>the machines. No change.
>>
>>I tried the ipconfig /release followed by the /renew option. No
>>change, no internet on the three machines. It works fine on
>>the 'good' machine.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Listed below is the result from ipconfig on the good machine, i.e.
>>via and one of the bad ones that do not interent
>>
>>snip ------------------
>>ipconfig/all
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : via bad machine
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : blamk
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . .. . . : No No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . : wi.rr.com line not shown
>>
>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wi.rr.com blank
>> Description . . : VIA Rhine III Adapter Description of NIC
>> Physical Address. .. : 00-40-63-C1-E0-C0 00-EO-18-78-1A-73
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . : Yes Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . : Yes Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . : 65.29.137.26 169.254.157.224
>> Subnet Mask . . . . : 255.255.248.0 255.255.0.0
>> Default Gateway . . : 65.29.136.1 blank
>> DHCP Server . . : 10.52.160.1 line not shown
>> DNS Servers . . : 24.94.163.100, 24.94.163.101 line not show
>>------
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:28:40 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
Seantific,
> So on one of the machines that can't network, can you change the default
> gateway to match the working machine?
I have had this suggestion made before but I don't know how to do that. And
since everything worked for years in the past and only suddenly failed, I
will wait until I exhause other opions OR calling my ISP also fails.
Jim
> If you can, give it an IP address in that subnet. I would try configuring
> one of the non-working PCs to look like the good one, same dhcp server,
> dns servers, subnet mask, etc. based on your ipconfig data:
> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=61370
> (BTW, http://www.nomorepasting.com is a great site for pasting and
> sharing info, text, scripts, and codes. A bookmark gem if you ask me ;)
> See if it works. It won't answer the question of what happened to the
> config but it might get them working again.
>
> My second suggestion is turn your modem off for 15 mins, then turn it
> back on, see what happens.
>
>
>
>
> jimpurcell2001 <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm reposting my problem as a last resort
>
> Here's my setup:
>
> Four computers on a router and of course a cable modem provinding
> internet access. Three of the computers were on one side of a single
> desk, the fourth was on another desk same room.
>
> Everyhing was working fine, all machines see each other on the
> network, all machines have internet access.
>
> I wanted to move the three computers to the other side of that desk,
> this involved unplugging everyhing to move the computers. I moved
> them then reconnected the cables. Oops! No networking, no internet.
> I can't recall for cetein wheht the lone computer that internets now
> had internet at first.
>
> I took the router out of the mix, connecting the cable modem to one
> machine at a time, only the one that now has internet, worked. The
> others did not work with only the cable modem connected to each
> machines NIC. I then turned off the modem for couple of minutes,
> thinking that it was a configuration problem between the modem and
> the machines. No change.
>
> I tried the ipconfig /release followed by the /renew option. No
> change, no internet on the three machines. It works fine on
> the 'good' machine.
>
> Jim
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:30:56 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Internet fail on all but one machine
Seantific,
> Also make sure your Windows Firewall, if you are using it, is disabled on
> each PC.
That is something that I have not tried, but the W.F. on the working
machine
is turned on. But I will try turning it off on one of the bad machines,
JIC.
TNX
Jim
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:07:17 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Network fails to Internet on all but one machine
This is a mult-Posted message: I have been struggling with a problem for a
couple of weeks. I wanted to explain what solved the problem. I sill keep
it
brief.
Seantific oh MCH metioned turning off the Windows Firewall as a precaution.
Well my good machine had it turned on so I figured that was not the
problem.
But I went to the one 'bad machine' and removed all the startup items. And
that took care of the problem... at least on that machine. Then I
reinserted
the router into the mix and I was back on 'the air' on that machine. I have
enough experience to know that the other machines may have other problem
that will also need solving... or NOT. :-) TNX to all who tried to help,
escpcially to Seantific for the idea trigger that led to a solution. I am
also very glad not to have had to resort to RR help or the Geek Squad. :-)
Jim
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:49:22 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Mark,
> What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
> their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
> I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Are you talking about an XP CD that has the bundled apps and mfg stuff on
it? In recent years computer companies have taken yet another step in cost
cutting. They do not supply rescue disks but place the rescue files on the
hard drive, sometimes in a hidden partition. Most that I have tried have
notes that show up on startup that advise the user to create rescue disk(s)
using the program provided and the burner. The companies long ago stopped
supplying decent printed manuals, well many have. Some supply a very
generic
manual that doesn't help any but a computing dummy.
Jim
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:50:41 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Mark,
> P.S. These days, you have to order the CD when you order the Dell - $10
> extra - GET IT!
I haven't owned a Dell but I'd guess that you can burn your own rescue disk
using the built in program and burner.
Jim
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:53:21 -0000
From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Free Spyware Program Maybe
Already have it. I stated that this could be an additional tool to add
to the pack.
Vince
--- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron Cusimano"
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> Get "Spybot search & destroy", it's free and not crippled.
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> http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:54 -0500
From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
The last three Dells I've bought came with an OS CD that was just an OEM
version of Windows with a Dell design. You can install just the OS with
that. Then they come with another couple disks that have the drivers.
Then the other software. It's one of the reasons I prefer Dell.
The Dell manuals are okay. What they give that I like better is a list
of the actual hardware in the machine. I'd rather have that than the
manual anyday, because if I have the name, model number, and type of
hardware, I can get the manual. They're all online.
On or about 4/25/2006 2:49 PM, the one known as Jim was rumoured to have
uttered...
> Mark,
>
>> What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
>> their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
>> I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
>
> Are you talking about an XP CD that has the bundled apps and mfg stuff on
> it? In recent years computer companies have taken yet another step in
cost
> cutting. They do not supply rescue disks but place the rescue files on
the
> hard drive, sometimes in a hidden partition. Most that I have tried have
> notes that show up on startup that advise the user to create rescue
disk(s)
> using the program provided and the burner. The companies long ago
stopped
> supplying decent printed manuals, well many have. Some supply a very
generic
> manual that doesn't help any but a computing dummy.
>
> Jim
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:12 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
Wyatt,
> The last three Dells I've bought came with an OS CD that was just an OEM
> version of Windows with a Dell design. You can install just the OS with
> that.
> Then they come with another couple disks that have the drivers.
By then do you mean later in time, or in addition to the XP disk?
Sony, HP and Gateway don't supply disks with the 'puter, just the
partition.
But you can send for them, like I did when I misplaced the ones I had
created and clobbered my installation.
> The Dell manuals are okay. What they give that I like better is a list
> of the actual hardware in the machine.
You can get that with System Infomation or third party programs.
> I'd rather have that than the
> manual anyday, because if I have the name, model number, and type of
> hardware, I can get the manual. They're all online.
Most of my recent machines have an on line manual that is identical to the
paper one.
Jim
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:16:56 -0500
From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
On or about 4/25/2006 4:29 PM, the one known as Jim was rumoured to have
uttered...
> Wyatt,
>
>> The last three Dells I've bought came with an OS CD that was just an OEM
>> version of Windows with a Dell design. You can install just the OS with
>> that.
>> Then they come with another couple disks that have the drivers.
>
> By then do you mean later in time, or in addition to the XP disk?
> Sony, HP and Gateway don't supply disks with the 'puter, just the
partition.
> But you can send for them, like I did when I misplaced the ones I had
> created and clobbered my installation.
No, I mean with the computer. The last one had separate disks for each
of the bundled softwares, driver disks, and the XP OEM disk. HP uses
the restore disk system and, now, you have to burn your own from the
hidden restore partition. You can only do it once, so if you screw it
up, you pay for replacements and wait on them in the mail.
I don't buy Gateway. I don't like them. I don't buy Sony, because I'm
very happy with Dell and HP is a quick substitute if the price is right.
Sony's tend to be higher and I don't see the added value when HP and
Dell work just fine and can usually be had at a good price. HP's are
okay, but the restore disk thingee bites and their
spyware/adware/trialware software packages give me a headache. I have
to go through and clean the crap off them first thing and then make *my
own* restore disk with Acronis. That's why HP is the backup plan and
Dell is the main gig.
>
>> The Dell manuals are okay. What they give that I like better is a list
>> of the actual hardware in the machine.
>
> You can get that with System Infomation or third party programs.
Okay, but it's more convenient for me to see it on paper from the people
who installed it. Third party programs, and even System Information can
and do make mistakes. Not always, or often, or necessarily major, but
I've proven it a time or two for a few customers, friends, and family
members.
>> I'd rather have that than the
>> manual anyday, because if I have the name, model number, and type of
>> hardware, I can get the manual. They're all online.
>
> Most of my recent machines have an on line manual that is identical to
the
> paper one.
Exactly. I can keep fifty or more manuals on a CD or jump drive that
takes up the room of...well...a CD or jump drive. The equivalent paper
or book manuals take much more room than that. If I had to keep paper
manuals on every machine I work with, I'd need to rent storage space.
Right now I have a CD that has technical specs and notes on around
thirty different computers. Technically two CD's, because I have a
backup as well.
>
> Jim
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:41:55 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
Wayatt,
> No, I mean with the computer. The last one had separate disks for each
> of the bundled softwares, driver disks, and the XP OEM disk.
That must have been awhile. I can't recall ever getting an OS disk since XP
came out.
And it has been three years I think since rescue disks were always included
with computers.
> I don't buy Gateway. I don't like them.
I really liked my first Gateway, I love the case, sliders instead of scres
to hold the drives instead of screws. :-)
Jim
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:27:18 -0400
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
Didn't I say that it was just like an OEM XP CD?
People here either aren't reading what I say, or they don't believe it.
Mark
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From: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:49 PM
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Mark,
> What people aren't getting here is that Dell doesn't have Restore CDs -
> their OS CD is just like an OEM XP CD.
> I've done dozens of successful repairs using them.
Are you talking about an XP CD that has the bundled apps and mfg stuff on
it? In recent years computer companies have taken yet another step in cost
cutting. They do not supply rescue disks but place the rescue files on the
hard drive, sometimes in a hidden partition. Most that I have tried have
notes that show up on startup that advise the user to create rescue disk(s)
using the program provided and the burner. The companies long ago stopped
supplying decent printed manuals, well many have. Some supply a very generic
manual that doesn't help any but a computing dummy.
Jim
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