There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Missing a necesary root certificate From: Rakesh Tewary <rtewary@xxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: Missing a necesary root certificate From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Help please From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: How to activate XP From: Steve Eisenberg <chobersdeert@xxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Help please From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: How to activate XP From: Terry Stockdale <terry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 8. NVRaid Drivers From: "Lorenzo" <zo8pin@xxxxxxxxx> 9. Re: NVRaid Drivers From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> 10. New Member From: Winnie Clark <k9castle@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11. Re: New Member From: "Phyllis Christian" <webbot@xxxxxxxxxx> 12. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 13. Help Please From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 14. Re: Help please From: "Melody" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 15. Re: Help please From: "Melody" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 16. Re: Help please From: "Melody" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 17. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 18. Re[2]: Help please From: "Mike the mod" <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> 19. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 20. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 21. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 22. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 23. Re: Re[2]: Help please From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 24. Re: New Member From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 25. Re: Re[2]: Help please From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:04:24 +0530 From: Rakesh Tewary <rtewary@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Missing a necesary root certificate Hello Estavi, Yes, I noticed the date that day when sending out the mail. I tried to correct it after the various problems (below) cropped up but it would not correct so I think it was possibly a related event. Now it has synchronized. I had replaced the battery just two months back. Anyway, I will replace it again - they are not too much of a cost. Better be safe than sorry! To all members who probably replied to my problem, sorry for not replying but I lost 'all' my mail for the past 3 days. :-( Thanks a ton. Warm regards, Rakesh. =========================================================================================================== > Hello Rakesh: Check the date on your computer. It is > set for May 20, 2004. the battery may be going bad. > > Estavi > > --- Rakesh Tewary <rtewary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I started my computer today and got the following > > message - > > > > CMOS/GPNV Checksum Bad. > > > > Press F2 to run Setup. > > Press F1 tol oad default values and continue. > > > > Knowing nothing about Setup, I pressed F1. This > > popup window came up - > > > > C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\Zone Alarm\zclient.exe > > > > There was a white cross/multiplication sign inside a > > red button. > > Validation failed for > > C:\WINDOWS\system32\VSINIT.dll. You re probably > > missing a necessary root certificate. > > > > What does this mean and what should I do? Please > > help. > > > > Till the point when I shut down the machine last > > night, nothing untoward > > had happened nor did I load any new programme? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Warm regards, > > Ricky. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Missing a necesary root certificate The Message archive should have a copy of all the group emails for the past three days and beyond: http://shorterlink.com/?PIQXQ5 Rakesh Tewary <rtewary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello Estavi, Yes, I noticed the date that day when sending out the mail. I tried to correct it after the various problems (below) cropped up but it would not correct so I think it was possibly a related event. Now it has synchronized. I had replaced the battery just two months back. Anyway, I will replace it again - they are not too much of a cost. Better be safe than sorry! To all members who probably replied to my problem, sorry for not replying but I lost 'all' my mail for the past 3 days. :-( Thanks a ton. Warm regards, Rakesh. =========================================================================================================== > Hello Rakesh: Check the date on your computer. It is > set for May 20, 2004. the battery may be going bad. > > Estavi > > --- Rakesh Tewary <rtewary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I started my computer today and got the following > > message - > > > > CMOS/GPNV Checksum Bad. > > > > Press F2 to run Setup. > > Press F1 tol oad default values and continue. > > > > Knowing nothing about Setup, I pressed F1. This > > popup window came up - > > > > C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\Zone Alarm\zclient.exe > > > > There was a white cross/multiplication sign inside a > > red button. > > Validation failed for > > C:\WINDOWS\system32\VSINIT.dll. You re probably > > missing a necessary root certificate. > > > > What does this mean and what should I do? Please > > help. > > > > Till the point when I shut down the machine last > > night, nothing untoward > > had happened nor did I load any new programme? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Warm regards, > > Ricky. Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:50:50 +0930 From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! This problem may be caused by heat issues due to poor case design / compact case design (ie bad air flow). Try setting CPU to "Portable/Laptop" power scheme for a while (few hours at least), see how you go. The below is edited by me from http://www.pcpitstop.com/faq/cpu.asp?print=1 The PC may have reached a "thermal zone", exceeding a temperature that the system designers did not want to exceed. The system may reduce speed or even shut down in these cases. Beginning with the Pentium 4, Intel has incorporated some of the thermal and power management features into their desktop processors, and AMD has followed suit. On desktop processors, the emphasis is usually on preventing overheating due to inadequate cooling, rather than saving power. Nonetheless, the technology is basically the same, and is controlled by the same Windows settings. In Windows XP, go to Control Panel | Power Options, Power Schemes tab. Select the "Portable/Laptop" power scheme. *XP Power scheme* *AC* *Battery*** Always On None None Home/Office Desktop None Adaptive Portable/Laptop Adaptive Adaptive Minimal Power Management Adaptive Adaptive Maximize Battery Life Adaptive Degrade Presentation Adaptive Degrade When *None* is in effect, the CPU will always run at full speed unless it reaches a critical thermal zone (in plain terms, unless it's overheating). For the *Adaptive* mode, the system will run at a lower speed until Windows decides that the system workload justifies moving the CPU to a higher speed. This may be done in several steps; the exact decision will depend on the workload, the power scheme, and the type of CPU being used. In the *Degrade*mode, the processor will always run slower to conserve power, and may even be stopped totally when possible. This will reduce performance, obviously. On 23/04/06, Rich S <heavy_60538@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Estavi > Unrelated to the question,but I just wanted > to thank you for the excellent word wrap of > your message.It's much easier to read this > way and more esthetically pleasing. > Rich S > > --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Estavi Meilu > > <estavi2@...> wrote: > > > > It was casually mentioned a while back, but a VERY > > good possibility is a bad power supply or a shorted > > power connection wire. When there is a failure in > > power output, (due to power supply problem, shorted > > wiring or a failing component that causes a voltage > > loss) the powersupply/computer will automatically shut > > down. > > > > If the heat seaking solutions don't fix the problem, > > suggest the following as a fault isolation effort: > > 1. Check ALL the wires FROM the power supply. Make > > sure none of them are pinched by some component or > > there are no bare spots in the insulation of the > > wiring. > > > > 2. If no problems in 1, disconnect the power > > connectors to the floppy drive and cd/dvd ROM, or > > slave harddrive. This might isolate a bad unit that > > is causing a power disturbance. > > > > 3. If nothing in 1 or 2, and the heat solutions > > didn't work, you may have to find someone with a spare > > power supply who will temporarily install it for you > > to check if that is the problem. > > > > One final thought, did this problem start right after > > you added some item to the computer? Many computers > > use power supplies that are only marginally adequate. > > If other units (cd/dvd drives or another hard drive) > > are added, the undersized power supply will > > intermittently give up--which shuts down the computer. > > > > Good Luck. > > > > Estavi > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:02:17 +0930 From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help please My advice is to get a PE boot CD ( http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and run chkdsk c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that issue. On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Melody, > what kind of laptop is it? > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP > > Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block > to keep it charged up? > > Mike > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* > > > On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: > > I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had > problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the > battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it > says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front > page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends > computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to > get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are > packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on > laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? > and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:52:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Eisenberg <chobersdeert@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: How to activate XP Thanks, Jim! Steve NH Jim <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Steve, > On the serious side, though, I have a bunch of > computers and a bunch of hard drives and 2 copies of > XP Pro. I don't know which copy came with which HD in > which computer. I have only had to call MS once for activation in spite of the fact that I have reinstall from one of three XP disks that I now have. If you find the XP seriel # on your machine and use that to activate XP it should work. Jim --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help please Are you getting a "missing shell.dll file" error message? You can download shell.dll here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/files/winfiles/shell-dll.zip OR http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?shell and put it in both: C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32 and C:\WINNT\SYSTEM You may try the following too, if the above does not work: Click Start>Run>type SFC /Scannow >Hit OK. Use SFC /Scannow command to restore missing system files: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310747 Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody, what kind of laptop is it? Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block to keep it charged up? Mike ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:44:49 -0500 From: Terry Stockdale <terry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: How to activate XP You will need the CD Key, which is not the same thing as the Product Code. Belarc Advisor (www.belarc.com) will tell you the CD Keys for your installation. Or, if you have good eyes and a flash light, you can read it off the sticker on your case - if you can figure out the idiotitic, ambiguous fonts that Microsoft uses on those stickers. Belarc Advisor's will tell you a LOT about your computer. -- Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA My tips site and free newsletter: http://www.TerrysComputerTips.com My blogs: http://www.TheNextWindow.com and http://blog.TerrysComputerTips.com At 08:52 AM 4/23/2006, you wrote: >Thanks, Jim! > >Steve >NH > >Jim <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Steve, > > > On the serious side, though, I have a bunch of > > computers and a bunch of hard drives and 2 copies of > > XP Pro. I don't know which copy came with which HD in > > which computer. > > I have only had to call MS once for activation in spite of the fact that I > have reinstall from one of three XP disks that I now have. If you find the > XP seriel # on your machine and use that to activate XP it should work. > > Jim > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:31:54 -0000 From: "Lorenzo" <zo8pin@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: NVRaid Drivers Hello.. Everyone. I built my second computer. I am running an Abit KN8 939 socket board. I installed the operationg system but somehow did not install the NVRAID Drivers from the disk that came with the board. I am fairly new at this and can't seem to figure out how to get this disk to install. There is no install setup on the disk. And I don't know what directory to copy it to if that is the simple solution.. Help!!!!!!!!!!! Lorenzo ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:09:56 +0930 From: "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: NVRaid Drivers When you install windows, right at the start it say press F6 to install 3rd party SCSI or RAID drivers. Have your driver floppy handy and press F6. On 24/04/06, Lorenzo <zo8pin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello.. Everyone. I built my second computer. I am running an Abit KN8 > 939 socket board. I installed the operationg system but somehow did > not install the NVRAID Drivers from the disk that came with the board. > I am fairly new at this and can't seem to figure out how to get this > disk to install. There is no install setup on the disk. And I don't > know what directory to copy it to if that is the simple solution.. > > Help!!!!!!!!!!! > > Lorenzo > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:47:47 -0400 From: Winnie Clark <k9castle@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: New Member Hi All, I'm a new member and wanted to introduce myself. I'm a totally self-taught PC user (one of those who said for years .... what on earth would I do with a computer???). Now, of course, I can't imagine life without one! I started in 1997 with Win 95 and have moved up though Win 98, ME, and now XP. I've learned a lot through trial and error and from lists like this. I enjoy picking up tips and tricks from others and hopefully will be able to answer a question or two myself. My biggest tip to everyone is to BACK-UP, BACK-UP, BACK-UP. I recently had what should have been a small hardware glitch that I contacted Dell about. After 13 days, 18 technicians, and $99 my system was so totally corrupt that there was no fixing it and I lost *everything*. Every financial record, every photo, every document. Each technician made the problem a little worse, and it totally snowballed. Strangely enough the problem began with a flash drive that I had installed to BACK-UP! Now, I'm very careful to backup everything on a regular basis. That was a nightmare I don't ever care to repeat. Looking forward to participating, Winnie K9Castle@xxxxxxxxxxx --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0616-4, 04/21/2006 Tested on: 4/23/2006 12:47:47 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:32:15 -0500 From: "Phyllis Christian" <webbot@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: New Member I don't know why, but I swear our PC's go out of their way at times to give us a nervous breakdown..--Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Winnie Clark" <k9castle@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [MCH] New Member > Hi All, > > I'm a new member and wanted to introduce myself. I'm a totally > self-taught PC user (one of those who said for years .... what on > earth would I do with a computer???). Now, of course, I can't > imagine life without one! > > I started in 1997 with Win 95 and have moved up though Win 98, > ME, and now XP. I've learned a lot through trial and error and from > lists like this. I enjoy picking up tips and tricks from others and > hopefully > will be able to answer a question or two myself. > > My biggest tip to everyone is to BACK-UP, BACK-UP, BACK-UP. > I recently had what should have been a small hardware glitch that I > contacted Dell about. After 13 days, 18 technicians, and $99 my system > was so totally corrupt that there was no fixing it and I lost > *everything*. > Every financial record, every photo, every document. Each technician > made the problem a little worse, and it totally snowballed. > > Strangely enough the problem began with a flash drive that I had installed > to BACK-UP! > > Now, I'm very careful to backup everything on a regular basis. That was > a nightmare I don't ever care to repeat. > > Looking forward to participating, > > Winnie > K9Castle@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0616-4, 04/21/2006 > Tested on: 4/23/2006 12:47:47 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1503 (20060423) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:48:30 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Estavi, > It was casually mentioned a while back, but a VERY > good possibility is a bad power supply or a shorted > power connection wire. OK, this thread brought to mind one more possible cause of spontanious shutdown. What if the power supply has one voltage output running low and it momentariyly dips low enough to cause the reboot. I don't know how low it would have to get but if you have a built in or add on program the monitors the voltages maybe you could keep it running and check it often to see if a reboot occurs when a voltage is low. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Help Please Subject: Re: Help please Tears...my laptop is a dell windows xp...had all kinds of goodies on it..bought it that way so didn't get some of the CD's to put them back on...so I'm hoping I can fix it where it is now asking to start in safe mode, etc...I tried again in last known line and still stays black and pops up window missing shell.rdll or something like that...I need my laptop back up because I have to leave town Monday and need to do my college work that I still have on it...oh Please I hope someone can help me...I hate to restore but I couldn't get the stupid instant messenger right and it wouldn't delete off right in add or remove...so, I thought restoring back one day would work...probalby would have if electricity didn't go out and battery died...not sure if battery is back up cuz it charges fast when it's on while plugged in...so it might be as I had it plugged in this morning...but I can't get my page up at all to go into yahoo or anything...yes, our electricity is on and fine...so plugged it should work...Thank you so much for the help...Hugs, MElody Hi Melody, what kind of laptop is it? Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block to keep it charged up? Mike ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:02:44 -0000 From: "Melody" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help please I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way out in mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping area to get a CD...if I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it? the problem is I can't even get to start or front page with anything...it is all black...nothing on it...it died right in middle of restore so the laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing and I lost components...I can't get back on a page to do anything...except safe mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn it on...maybe I can do a command prompt there??? --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@...> wrote: > > My advice is to get a PE boot CD ( http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and run chkdsk > c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that issue. > > > On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Melody, > > what kind of laptop is it? > > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP > > > > Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block > > to keep it charged up? > > > > Mike > > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* > > > > > > On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: > > > > I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had > > problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the > > battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it > > says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front > > page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends > > computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to > > get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are > > packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on > > laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? > > and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody > > > > > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerhea daches>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > mycomputerheadaches- unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mycomputerheadaches- unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:03:00 -0000 From: "Melody" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help please I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way out in mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping area to get a CD...if I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it? the problem is I can't even get to start or front page with anything...it is all black...nothing on it...it died right in middle of restore so the laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing and I lost components...I can't get back on a page to do anything...except safe mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn it on...maybe I can do a command prompt there??? --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@...> wrote: > > My advice is to get a PE boot CD ( http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and run chkdsk > c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that issue. > > > On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Melody, > > what kind of laptop is it? > > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP > > > > Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block > > to keep it charged up? > > > > Mike > > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* > > > > > > On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: > > > > I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had > > problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the > > battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it > > says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front > > page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends > > computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to > > get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are > > packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on > > laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? > > and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody > > > > > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerhea daches>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > mycomputerheadaches- unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mycomputerheadaches- unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:59:53 -0000 From: "Melody" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help please Yes, I'm getting that but how can I download it? I can't get into my laptop at all...it won't go to a page except black one...it is saying some components are missing and won't go to front page or anything...just stays black and then has that pop up saying shell.dll file missing...tears...Melody --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, casper <officialbizniz@...> wrote: > > Are you getting a "missing shell.dll file" error message? > > You can download shell.dll here: > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/files/winfiles/shell-dll.zip > OR > http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?shell > and put it in both: > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32 and C:\WINNT\SYSTEM > > > You may try the following too, if the above does not work: > Click Start>Run>type SFC /Scannow >Hit OK. > Use SFC /Scannow command to restore missing system files: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310747 > > > > Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote: > Hi Melody, > what kind of laptop is it? > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP > > Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block to keep it charged up? > > Mike > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* > > On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: > > I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had > problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the > battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it > says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front > page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends > computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to > get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are > packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on > laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? > and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody > > > > > Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:33:03 -0400 From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! The power supply and memory stick are the first 2 items we will be replacing. They should be the cheapest,I figured about 40.00 each. We`ll do it one at a time ,cuz she ain`t rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Estavi Meilu To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! It was casually mentioned a while back, but a VERY good possibility is a bad power supply or a shorted power connection wire. When there is a failure in power output, (due to power supply problem, shorted wiring or a failing component that causes a voltage loss) the powersupply/computer will automatically shut down. If the heat seaking solutions don't fix the problem, suggest the following as a fault isolation effort: 1. Check ALL the wires FROM the power supply. Make sure none of them are pinched by some component or there are no bare spots in the insulation of the wiring. 2. If no problems in 1, disconnect the power connectors to the floppy drive and cd/dvd ROM, or slave harddrive. This might isolate a bad unit that is causing a power disturbance. 3. If nothing in 1 or 2, and the heat solutions didn't work, you may have to find someone with a spare power supply who will temporarily install it for you to check if that is the problem. One final thought, did this problem start right after you added some item to the computer? Many computers use power supplies that are only marginally adequate. If other units (cd/dvd drives or another hard drive) are added, the undersized power supply will intermittently give up--which shuts down the computer. Good Luck. Estavi --- Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > No. > My wife`s puter has the same problem. > > We can`t afford the 75.00 per hour the puter plaxces > want. > > I called all 3 of them and they all seem to think > its what`s called an "imbedded" virus. > > They all said it can`t be found by conventional > means. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sheila Perkins > To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O > WARNING! > > > Nope - Compaq! > I hate it!!!!!! > > Don't know what to buy when I replace it. > > Any ideas Howard? > > > From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:46:42 -0400 > > Must be an HP. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: simplyrose2000 > To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:53 PM > Subject: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > > > How can I diagnose or find out why my computer > shuts down suddenly > without warning and restarts? > > It is an aggravation to say the least because > all open pages are then > closed and I have to find my way back to them > through history. > > I do recall that Firefox has an extension that > allows you to continue > your session but can't recall the name of it or > which section to look > through to locate it. > > The main thing is whats causing the > shutdown/restart thingy. > > Would doing a HiJack this Log be of any help > and if so, does anyone > here know how to or what to do with the log? > > Any ideas or free diagnostic tools would really > be appreciated! > > Thanks In Advance, > Sheila > > > > > > > > > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below > it when responding.== > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! 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Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:41:31 -0700 From: "Mike the mod" <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re[2]: Help please Hi Melody, here are the command prompt restore instructions from Microsoft Start System Restore from the Command Line http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global System Restore is a great feature in XP that lets you roll back the operating system state to a particular point in time. This can be a lifesaver when you install or delete something that causes problems. However, what do you do if things are so messed up that you can't access System Restore through the graphical interface? KB article 304449 tells you how to start the System Restore tool from the command prompt. http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449 Start the System Restore tool at a command prompt 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8 during the initial startup to start your computer in Safe Mode with a command prompt. For additional information about the Safe mode with a command prompt, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/) A description of the Safe mode boot options in Windows XP 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator account or with an account that has administrator credentials. 3. Type the following command at a command prompt, and then press ENTER: %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the screen to restore your computer to an earlier state. Mike ~ one of the Moderators It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/ ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote: I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way out in mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping area to get a CD...if I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it? the problem is I can't even get to start or front page with anything...it is all black...nothing on it...it died right in middle of restore so the laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing and I lost components...I can't get back on a page to do anything...except safe mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn it on...maybe I can do a command prompt there??? --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@...> wrote: My advice is to get a PE boot CD ( http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and run chkdsk c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that issue. On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote: Hi Melody, what kind of laptop is it? Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block to keep it charged up? Mike ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:50:48 -0400 From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Seems likely to me. I think the power supply will be the first to be bought. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Estavi, > It was casually mentioned a while back, but a VERY > good possibility is a bad power supply or a shorted > power connection wire. OK, this thread brought to mind one more possible cause of spontanious shutdown. What if the power supply has one voltage output running low and it momentariyly dips low enough to cause the reboot. I don't know how low it would have to get but if you have a built in or add on program the monitors the voltages maybe you could keep it running and check it often to see if a reboot occurs when a voltage is low. Jim ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages SPONSORED LINKS Technical support Computer security Computer technical support Computer training Free computer technical support Computer problems ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:56:09 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Estavi, > Not all the con jobs come from technicians. Right, but when the information is wrong it matters not much whether the misinformer is doing it intentionally or just doesn't know any better. I tend to believe that no one should trust what someone says unless they are very sure that the person knows somthing. OR the recommended step will not be harmful. > having a problem with the XP in my new(er) HP. > Contacted HP tech support (in India). Went thru all > the checks, and when he ran out of items, he told me I > would just have to do a complete restore of the OS. > His explanation: > "There was some static buildup in the power supply > that corrupted the OS." The only thing worse that people who have not been trained and just tell you something from their list of 'if 'a' then tell them 'b'. THAN when those people start guessing on their own. The list recommendations may not work but their guesses are not only unlikely to work but are probably completely bogus. > Maybe he knows more than I, but as an ex-electronics > eneginer I never heard of that phenomenon. EX? What are you doing now? Of course I'm also an EX, ex electronics teacher and electronics teacher. Seventeen year teaching and nearly twenty as a broadcast technician. The problem with computer troublehooting is that it is not only new technology compated to analogue electroncs but it is also a broader field, the old hardware vs. software is always cropping up. That and logic vs starndard and unstandard established procedure that may defy logic. > course he had no real basis. I believe he was giving > me a pacifier explanation to justify a complete > restore when they had no other solutions. Actually I run my rescue disks when I can't find any other solution. My rate of effective solutions to bogus ones that I get in on line groups is at least twenty to one against. The first task is to filter out the 'tips' that are just guesses from members. And when I give possible solutions, I am usually as tentative as I can, because I know that they are often guesses. Then there is the rule that troubleshooters know, when logical and reasonable solutions don't work, try the illogical an unreasonable ones. OR just use the rescue disks. :-) Jim ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:01:12 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Rich, > Unrelated to the question,but I just wanted > to thank you for the excellent word wrap of > your message.It's much easier to read this > way and more esthetically pleasing. I have to respond because I really wish that those who write and especailly those who reply would edit their messags. People place their replies all over the place, sometimes I never find a reply because the message is all mixed up. I have been on list groups where some people equatee 'bottom repliers' almost as bad as the off topic writers. That's a little extreme. What I do is edit my reply segments after each part that I am replying to. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:04:48 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Howard, > The power supply and memory stick are the first 2 items we will be > replacing. I have been thinking about the computer 'switching' power supply, how sensitive they might be to low line voltage. That and if any individaul PS output voltages are low, how this will affect the typical motherboard. I wonder whether anyone has any concrete figures on these two issue, please don't guess. I can make educated guesses, I was an electronics tech. before teaching electronics. I'm hoping for anecdotal evidence. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a restore when the electricity went out...it stopped the restore in mid restore...which in turn now some of my components are gone...and it won't go back on...just black page comes up with the missing shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or anything...I can't get to start...it's black page...the only thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is safe mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo whatever happened... Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody, here are the command prompt restore instructions from Microsoft Start System Restore from the Command Line http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global System Restore is a great feature in XP that lets you roll back the operating system state to a particular point in time. This can be a lifesaver when you install or delete something that causes problems. However, what do you do if things are so messed up that you can't access System Restore through the graphical interface? KB article 304449 tells you how to start the System Restore tool from the command prompt. http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449 Start the System Restore tool at a command prompt 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8 during the initial startup to start your computer in Safe Mode with a command prompt. For additional information about the Safe mode with a command prompt, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/) A description of the Safe mode boot options in Windows XP 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator account or with an account that has administrator credentials. 3. Type the following command at a command prompt, and then press ENTER: %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the screen to restore your computer to an earlier state. Mike ~ one of the Moderators It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/ ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote: I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way out in mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping area to get a CD...if I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it? the problem is I can't even get to start or front page with anything...it is all black...nothing on it...it died right in middle of restore so the laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing and I lost components...I can't get back on a page to do anything...except safe mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn it on...maybe I can do a command prompt there??? --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron Cusimano" <mordain23@...> wrote: My advice is to get a PE boot CD ( http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and run chkdsk c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that issue. On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote: Hi Melody, what kind of laptop is it? Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged into the power block to keep it charged up? Mike ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote: I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1 day because I had problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of restore the battery died, power went out...now I try to log into my laptop and it says shell.something is not there so it wont' even go to front page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm on a friends computer...but I do my college work on my laptop...is there any way to get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I think they are packed adn in storage...is there another way like when I first turn on laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back to normal again? and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 24 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:09:43 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: New Member Winnie, >(one of those who said for years .... what on earth would I do with a >computer???). I had a similar attitude twice, first regarding 'upgrading' to a PC having owned two Commodore 128s. And then I took awhile to get on the internet. I haven't used an 8 bit machine in years, my last time was well into my PC experience but they finally gave out. Now I can't imagine computing witout the internet. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 25 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:28:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please I tried the safe mode like stated below and it is still black background and pop up saying "winlogon.exe - unable to locate component...then next to red x is this application has failed to start because shell32.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem"... is there another way I can type (like in start, run) on beginning page where it says safe mode, etc.? it wont' even let me into the front page where start is...Thanks again for the help...I'm just so upset and frustrated...Melody (Little Wolf) Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody, here are the command prompt restore instructions from Microsoft Start System Restore from the Command Line http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global System Restore is a great feature in XP that lets you roll back the operating system state to a particular point in time. This can be a lifesaver when you install or delete something that causes problems. However, what do you do if things are so messed up that you can't access System Restore through the graphical interface? KB article 304449 tells you how to start the System Restore tool from the command prompt. http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449 Start the System Restore tool at a command prompt 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8 during the initial startup to start your computer in Safe Mode with a command prompt. For additional information about the Safe mode with a command prompt, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/) A description of the Safe mode boot options in Windows XP 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator account or with an account that has administrator credentials. 3. Type the following command at a command prompt, and then press ENTER: %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the screen to restore your computer to an earlier state. Mike ~ one of the Moderators It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/ see the Yahoo home page http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/ See the self help page here //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/webpage?webpage_id=mch