There are 15 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> 4. Real player question From: "vitoscotti" <vitoscotti@xxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Real player question From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 8. Help? From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 9. Re: Help? From: K-lang <cade00000@xxxxxxxxx> 10. Re: OT joke/ PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 11. Re: WYATT - PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 12. Re: CASPER - PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 13. Re: WinAntiVirus Pro 2006 From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> 14. Re: Help? From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> 15. Re: OT VIPPY From: Murray White <phymur@xxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:55:57 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Sheila, > What is a "clip lead cable"? Do you buy it someplace special? Radio Shack or any electronics store has them in kits with various colored wires. I suppose you could use a length of stranded wire [for flexibility] connecting one end to the computer case and perhaps wraping the other end around the vacuum cleaner wand. The idea is just to have conducting path between the wand and the case [with the cord plugged in so that the case is grounded electrically] to prevent any build up of static electricity. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:40:17 -0500 From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Huh. I'll keep my eyes open. On or about 4/20/2006 8:32 PM, the one known as Howard was rumoured to have uttered... > I1ve heard lately that 4 different HP1s have had this problem. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wyatt M. Portendt <mailto:wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx> > *To:* mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:35 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > > I'm not Howard, but Dells and HP's are doing an awesome job for my > users > and me. > > On or about 4/20/2006 7:01 AM, the one known as Sheila Perkins was > rumoured to have uttered... > > Nope - Compaq! > > I hate it!!!!!! > > > > Don't know what to buy when I replace it. > > > > Any ideas Howard? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:58:58 -0500 From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Haward, >The restore disks have been run 3 or 4 times with no effect. What does that mean, did XP get reinstalled? If not then they were not run. They will only have effect if they reinstall XP, probably by reformatting the c: partition. Jim [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:22:33 -0000 From: "vitoscotti" <vitoscotti@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Real player question Hello this is my first post.I bought my first computer in Sept.2005.I've been picking some knowledge up here & there as I go along.Still pretty much a novice.One problem I haven't been able to solve is with my realplayer at http://www.prophecyclub.com/streaming_audio.htm .This site worked fine the first 2 months then all of a sudden when I clicked the audio or video links the can't be found page pops in.Maybe 6 or 7 of the links work.My realplayer works fine everywhere else but here.I called the site and they said everything is ok on their end.Friends and people on other groups say they have no problems.Ive uninstalled & installed realplayer with no results.Ive gone into the tools>properties on real player to adjust how the realplayer reads a page with no results.Then all of a sudden 2 weeks ago the site starts working fine.Then after a windows or webroot spysweeper update the links stopped working again.It's got to have something to do with the windows or spysweeper update,but Im not sure how to attack the problem.I do have a firewall but I acquired it much after the problem began. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:49:21 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Howard & Shiela, some questions: 1. Does your PC shut down when you only open certain programs/tasks/activities but not others? Can you identify which ones? 2. How soon in terms of minutes does it shut down after you turn it on? 3. Does the computer consistently turn off at approximately the same time right after you turn it on? 4. Does the computer RE-START or just turn off without re-starting? If it re-starts, maybe you will get some clues from this article: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000689.htm 5. Shiela & Howard, which Windows version are you using? This is a very important information we need to zero in on your problem. 6. Does it shut off while you are using it, or after it has been sitting untouched for a while? 7. If you open the PC case and aim a running high-powered electric fan at it while the PC is running, does the problem still persist? 8. Does your PC sit where the sun's rays hit it or is it close to source of heat? Is it close to a major home appliance? Does the back of your PC abut the wall with little space in between? 9. Have you tried plugging the PC to another outlet/part of the house/room that is not associated/connected with the outlet that you are using now? Move your PC to such a room and observe what happens. 10. Are the cables inside the PC neatly dressed or bunched up and do not impede proper or continuous air flow? 11. How updated are you antivirus, Ad-Aware, Spybot, SpywareBlaster & MS Windows Defender? Have you ran them in Safe Mode and see if they detect anything nasty? 12. Have you ran a memory test to see if this is a memory problem? 13. Is the CPU fan running sluggishly? Compare with a CPU fan in a working PC and see the diff. Can you hear the purring of the Power Supply fan? Is the case fan running, if you have one? 14. How dusty is it inside your PC? 15. Are you using an INTEL CPU? Amd? 16. Did you recently install XP's SP2? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;878474 There are drives that turn themselves off when they get too hot. If you are using an insufficient power supply (low wattage) and you are stressing it beyond its limits (due to new hardware, devices, multi-tasking etc), your PC will reboot or shut down. Your PS wattage rating? Please post it. This is a very long thread but be patient in combing for info. You just might find your solution there: Computer shuts down randomly http://shorterlink.com/?3VJ4X0 If you are using Windows XP, this site is superb: Windows XP Boot Problems & Edits http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_restart.htm The list of causes causing random shutdowns is pretty long as you can see. We need more info to go on. Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Believe me,we`ve tried everything! No luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Winchester To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Hi, My sister's puter would shut down w/o warning...it turned out that the (ps) power suppy's cooling fans/ducts were clogged with dirt and dust...causing the ps to over heat and shut down. She had this problem for over six months but cleaning the fans fixed the problem for good !! I hope this info helps.... Carl Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: No. My wife`s puter has the same problem. We can`t afford the 75.00 per hour the puter plaxces want. I called all 3 of them and they all seem to think its what`s called an "imbedded" virus. They all said it can`t be found by conventional means. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheila Perkins To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Nope - Compaq! I hate it!!!!!! Don't know what to buy when I replace it. Any ideas Howard? From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:46:42 -0400 Must be an HP. ----- Original Message ----- From: simplyrose2000 Subject: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! How can I diagnose or find out why my computer shuts down suddenly without warning and restarts? It is an aggravation to say the least because all open pages are then closed and I have to find my way back to them through history. I do recall that Firefox has an extension that allows you to continue your session but can't recall the name of it or which section to look through to locate it. The main thing is whats causing the shutdown/restart thingy. Would doing a HiJack this Log be of any help and if so, does anyone here know how to or what to do with the log? Any ideas or free diagnostic tools would really be appreciated! Thanks In Advance, Sheila Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:26:33 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Real player question Is the RealPlayer the problem here or Internet browser. You mentioned "can't be found page pops in". Are you saying that you are getting "The page cannot be found." error message when you click on those video links at the page you posted? Can you replicate the problem in Opera or Firefox? Check your file associations: In Windows Explorer>Tools>Folder Options>File Types. Look for the Real Player entries. *If* you disable you're firewall (20 seconds won't hurt) do you still have the problem? You don't need to disable your, just punch holes in it for certain protocols. http://tinyurl.com/jzgkp Can you post the exact error message you are getting when you click the Real video links? vitoscotti <vitoscotti@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello this is my first post.I bought my first computer in Sept.2005. I've been picking some knowledge up here & there as I go along. Still pretty much a novice. One problem I haven't been able to solve is with my realplayer at http://www.prophecyclub.com/streaming_audio.htm . This site worked fine the first 2 months then all of a sudden when I clicked the audio or video links they can't be found page pops in.Maybe 6 or 7 of the links work.My realplayer works fine everywhere else but here.I called the site and they said everything is ok on their end.Friends and people on other groups say they have no problems.Ive uninstalled & installed realplayer with no results.Ive gone into the tools>properties on real player to adjust how the realplayer reads a page with no results.Then all of a sudden 2 weeks ago the site starts working fine.Then after a windows or webroot spysweeper update the links stopped working again.It's got to have something to do with the windows or spysweeper update,but Im not sure how to attack the problem.I do have a firewall but I acquired it much after the problem began. Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:29:20 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Can you install the program in Safe Mode? Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Just insatlling the programs will cause a reboot,usually before its fully installed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! By the way. When the puter does run,running any program,including Zone alarm,causes the puter to shut down and reboot. Antivirus programs ,same thing. Spybot,every time its initiated. She hasn`t gotten a full scan from Spybot in about 2 months now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! The restore disks have been run 3 or 4 times with no effect. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Howard, >We can`t afford the 75.00 per hour the puter plaxces want. Then you probably can't afford to own a computer. :-) >I called all 3 of them and they all seem to think its what`s called an "imbedded" virus. Well, they can tell you anything since you will not give them your business. I am always suspicious when people blame computer problems on a virus. At leas if the user has Anti Virus software. In this case I'd guess that they just want to scare you into using their service. Here's a solution that may not solve the problem but definitely will eliimate a virus as the problem. Run your emergency rescue disks [or choose the factory restore option if you have no disks, they have put the rescue files on a separeate partition for the past few years to save the cost of the disk. If you have a cd or dvd burner you can create rescue disk(s) strongly recommended in case you have a bad crash that won't allow you to get to the on board rescue. Of course you need to back up any files created since you got the computer AND you will also need to reinstall any programs installed since then. Jim Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Help? HI Everyone, I am new and have a problem with my laptop...I keep getting a window installer box popping up saying preparing to install...it slows me down and keeps popping up...is there any way to stop that? What happened was due to some stuff going on with my laptop I did a system restore...well, that didn't help...and caused the installer box to pop up everytime I come online...I have window xp...Hope someone can help...let me know if there are any more info you need...Thanks so much, Melody --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: K-lang <cade00000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help? I think the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility from Microsoft maybe able to help you: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 There were two versions of the Windows Installer Clean Up Utility: Msicu.exe - for Windows 95 and Microsoft Windows 98 Msicuu.exe - for Windows NT. This version works correctly in ALL 32-bit versions of Windows. "Melody (Little Wolf)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: HI Everyone, I am new and have a problem with my laptop...I keep getting a window installer box popping up saying preparing to install...it slows me down and keeps popping up...is there any way to stop that? What happened was due to some stuff going on with my laptop I did a system restore...well, that didn't help...and caused the installer box to pop up everytime I come online...I have window xp...Hope someone can help...let me know if there are any more info you need... Thanks so much, Melody --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: OT joke/ PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Mike, was it a nice trip? heheh Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi folks, (NOT SERIOUS) I use nitros oxide left over from my racing days to blow off my computer. I don't recall if it works or not, I can't remember anything<BG> Mike ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 4/20/2006 at 5:59 PM Sheila Perkins wrote: Great but scarry info Wyatt! I am gonna vacumme this thing and wait till it just dies on me I guess. I ain't about to pay a tech with this thing, as I said before, can't stand compaq for many reasons and many issues. But you did give me some important and torturous info......lol Thanks Wyatt!!!!!! From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:00:29 -0500 If it is a heat problem, and it most likely is, it could arise from numerous causes. The power supply could be a culprit OR just the fan on the power supply. There could be dust/hair/etc. clogging the ventilation holes. A case fan could be failing. The ribbon cables for the drives could be fully blocking airflow. The fan blade could be slipping on the shaft making it appear the fan is running but not giving optimum airflow. The computer may be in a place where the hot air can't get away because it is enclosed in a cabinet or too close to where the fans exhaust. Sometimes, in rare cases, there can be stress cracks on the motherboard or other cards that only show up when the computer gets warm. A computer that runs hot can have several of these problems in small doses, causing the machine to get hot, but not showing you any one thing that stands out as the cause. Some computers, via poor design, don't have the ventilation and the fans arranged in such a way that the air blows across the hot parts. Don't look in just one place for heat problems, because the symptoms indicate this is what you have. Imbedded virus? Hehehe. Not likely or even probable. On or about 4/20/2006 1:16 PM, the one known as Sheila Perkins was rumoured to have uttered... > Too Bad! > > Have you tried what Terry and Casper and Chris said to do on this issue? > > If you haven't I would, that's what I am gonna try. Get the dust out of this > baby, safely I hope. > > Sheila Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: WYATT - PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! I think the likelihood of having a disaster using the vaccuum as opposed to using compressed air is much more. I understand Jim's concerns though. You can also use a straw and blow air at a specific part of the computer where dust is concentrated. Remember, blow air and not suck it in...hehe Sheila Perkins <simpleerose@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Great but scarry info Wyatt! I am gonna vacumme this thing and wait till it just dies on me I guess. I ain't about to pay a tech with this thing, as I said before, can't stand compaq for many reasons and many issues. But you did give me some important and torturous info......lol Thanks Wyatt!!!!!! From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <wyatt.m.portendt@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:00:29 -0500 If it is a heat problem, and it most likely is, it could arise from numerous causes. The power supply could be a culprit OR just the fan on the power supply. There could be dust/hair/etc. clogging the ventilation holes. A case fan could be failing. The ribbon cables for the drives could be fully blocking airflow. The fan blade could be slipping on the shaft making it appear the fan is running but not giving optimum airflow. The computer may be in a place where the hot air can't get away because it is enclosed in a cabinet or too close to where the fans exhaust. Sometimes, in rare cases, there can be stress cracks on the motherboard or other cards that only show up when the computer gets warm. A computer that runs hot can have several of these problems in small doses, causing the machine to get hot, but not showing you any one thing that stands out as the cause. Some computers, via poor design, don't have the ventilation and the fans arranged in such a way that the air blows across the hot parts. Don't look in just one place for heat problems, because the symptoms indicate this is what you have. Imbedded virus? Hehehe. Not likely or even probable. On or about 4/20/2006 1:16 PM, the one known as Sheila Perkins was rumoured to have uttered... > Too Bad! > > Have you tried what Terry and Casper and Chris said to do on this issue? > > If you haven't I would, that's what I am gonna try. Get the dust out of this > baby, safely I hope. > > Sheila > > > From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:42:36 -0400 > > No. > My wife`s puter has the same problem. > > We can`t afford the 75.00 per hour the puter plaxces want. > > I called all 3 of them and they all seem to think its what`s called an > "imbedded" virus. > > They all said it can`t be found by conventional means. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sheila Perkins > To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > > > Nope - Compaq! > I hate it!!!!!! > > Don't know what to buy when I replace it. > > Any ideas Howard? > > > From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:46:42 -0400 > > Must be an HP. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: simplyrose2000 > To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:53 PM > Subject: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! > > > How can I diagnose or find out why my computer shuts down suddenly > without warning and restarts? > > It is an aggravation to say the least because all open pages are then > closed and I have to find my way back to them through history. > > I do recall that Firefox has an extension that allows you to continue > your session but can't recall the name of it or which section to look > through to locate it. > > The main thing is whats causing the shutdown/restart thingy. > > Would doing a HiJack this Log be of any help and if so, does anyone > here know how to or what to do with the log? > > Any ideas or free diagnostic tools would really be appreciated! > > Thanks In Advance, > Sheila Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:53:34 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: CASPER - PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Sheila, you can use brush on anything non-electronics like the fan, or the power supply enclosure but do not use brush on electronic components like the memory or the motherboard which may contain static-sensitive chips. Brushes do produce static electricity. Sheila Perkins <simpleerose@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Casper, How would I know what not or to use the brush on? Do you mean on any metal little things but ok on case and fan area? What about on the heatsink? Sorry, I am just a dummy about opening this thing up. I do prefer the vacumming, it is a plastic component, no metal on the handle or hose. I have OCD and would really dread blowing dust all over the place when I have an extreme fear of germs and contamination and dirt. Thanks Casper Note To All: You all have been treating my issues like I am family, I appreciate and Thank You ALL for your hard work and help. Sheila From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [MCH] PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING! Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:50:05 -0500 Casper, >OH NO!! You cannot use a brush NOR a vacuum. Actually it is not automatically a bad thing to use a vacuum cleaner. Nor is a small paint brush bad. In fact they can be used quite effectivly together. Use a non metalic crevass tool and a small 1" paint brush. Carefullly brush the components with the brush while holding the cravass too close but not touching any componente. The fans and other non delicate areas can be vacuumed directly but may also need the paint brush. Jim Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: WinAntiVirus Pro 2006 Kerio is very good. simplyrose2000 <simpleerose@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Does anyone know anything about this product? The Link is: http://winantivirus.com/?aid=ms_ad&lid=firewall if anyone does know, would you let me know if it is good or bad and simple to use? I am desparate folks, I have no anti-virus or firewall, except window, downloading Kerio though. Every second I am on here it scares me to death! Sheila Don't mistreat any foreigners who live in your land. Instead, treat them as well as you treat citizens and love them as much as you love yourself....[Thus says] the Lord your God. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:08:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Help? Thank you so much...I have windows 2000...and it worked...I luckily knew enough to know which one to delete...I had tried to get rid of PSP 10 (X)...I have 9 with the computer and downloaded 10...it made my laptop run so slow...so I took it out and I guess after doing a restore it brought part of it back...now it's gone completely...and no more install pop up...Thanks so much! I really appreciated the help...Melody K-lang <cade00000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility from Microsoft maybe able to help you: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 There were two versions of the Windows Installer Clean Up Utility: Msicu.exe - for Windows 95 and Microsoft Windows 98 Msicuu.exe - for Windows NT. This version works correctly in ALL 32-bit versions of Windows. "Melody (Little Wolf)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: HI Everyone, I am new and have a problem with my laptop...I keep getting a window installer box popping up saying preparing to install...it slows me down and keeps popping up...is there any way to stop that? What happened was due to some stuff going on with my laptop I did a system restore...well, that didn't help...and caused the installer box to pop up everytime I come online...I have window xp...Hope someone can help...let me know if there are any more info you need... Thanks so much, Melody --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "mycomputerheadaches" on the web. 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