There are 13 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Windows ME From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: Windows ME From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Windows ME From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 4. MS Updates From: "Tempting2Taanzaa" <tempting2taanzaa@xxxxxxxx> 5. Re: Windows ME From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Windows ME From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Macros From: "Annie" <cosmaann@xxxxxxx> 8. Re: Windows ME From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> 9. Re: Windows ME From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 10. Re: Macros From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 11. Re: Windows ME From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 12. Re: Windows ME From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 13. Re: Windows ME From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:33:36 -0500 From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Windows ME I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up and running again. My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop (which has Windows XP Home). Thank you. Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:11:58 -0500 From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME I'd get a different computer tech. Dennis Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: [MCH] Windows ME > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up and running again. > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop (which has Windows XP Home). > > Thank you. > > Peter ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:00:47 -0400 From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME Yeah, I believe I'd look elsewhere for tech support. WindowsME is perfectly capable of running AV programs and being protected, just like any other Windows OS. WindowsME, however, is built on the Win98 platform that is by design less secure than Win2K or WinXP. There is essentially no security in the Windows ME operating system. The load 'pop' could very well be the power supply. You will need to make sure of the type of power connectors so that the power supply is replaced with one that is compatible with that motherboard. Not a difficult task but one that has to be done right. Tom Peter Churukian wrote: > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up and running again. > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop (which has Windows XP Home). > > Thank you. > > Peter > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:32:54 -0500 From: "Tempting2Taanzaa" <tempting2taanzaa@xxxxxxxx> Subject: MS Updates Hi: I did the critical updates for this month and had horrible results. I couldn't save any Word documents to particular folders (only a My Doc folder), my Deep Burner program wouldn't open a folder list to find files to update, the Java Virtual Machine wouldn't load for my online school and I completely lost a file (for school) while trying to save it. Has anyone been notified concerning a fix for the fixes or has anyone else had any weird things going on since installing the updates for 4-12-06? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:24:18 -0500 From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME Thanks, Dennis, for the reply. However, it's too late now, but my computer is fixed. See my reply to Tom Hunt. I pose another question. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME I'd get a different computer tech. Dennis Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: [MCH] Windows ME > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up and running again. > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop (which has Windows XP Home). > > Thank you. > > Peter ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:28:31 -0500 From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME Thanks, Tom, for the reply. Well, it's too late now. He's come and gone, and, yes, it was the power supply. I do have another question, though. This guy didn't like my 'screen saver' settings, where I had my hard disk turn off after a certain length of time. He said it's hard on the drive (no pun intended) and that I should just let the thing keep running. I usually turn my computer on in the morning, then check email, etc. I leave it on, then check back every hour or so for new emails, etc. Any thoughts? Thanks. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME Yeah, I believe I'd look elsewhere for tech support. WindowsME is perfectly capable of running AV programs and being protected, just like any other Windows OS. WindowsME, however, is built on the Win98 platform that is by design less secure than Win2K or WinXP. There is essentially no security in the Windows ME operating system. The load 'pop' could very well be the power supply. You will need to make sure of the type of power connectors so that the power supply is replaced with one that is compatible with that motherboard. Not a difficult task but one that has to be done right. Tom Peter Churukian wrote: > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up and running again. > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop (which has Windows XP Home). > > Thank you. > > Peter > ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:11:36 -0000 From: "Annie" <cosmaann@xxxxxxx> Subject: Macros Would someone send me somewhere to learn how to make a macro in replying to an email in Outlook? What I have read on Microsoft help is total greek to me. Thanks Annie ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:05:58 -0500 From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME I've had my hd's fall asleep during some downloads. I'm not a big fan of turning them off. I've also had some problems in the distant past with "screensavers." Don't use them either. Dennis Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME > Thanks, Dennis, for the reply. However, it's too late now, but my computer > is fixed. See my reply to Tom Hunt. I pose another question. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:11 PM > Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME > > > > I'd get a different computer tech. > > Dennis Jenkins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:33 PM > Subject: [MCH] Windows ME > > > > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer > tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. > 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier > today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind > feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local > tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an > attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His > reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I > currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I > know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I > convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up > and running again. > > > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one > can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop > (which has Windows XP Home). > > > > Thank you. > > > > Peter ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:10:01 -0400 From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME The short answer is that letting things run all the time is mostly bunk. Nothing needs to run constantly unless it has a specific job to do. I'm not sure where this myth got started or what has kept it alive but it wastes energy and it wears out components. Two things tend to go in harddrives and that's the bearings or the head seek mechanism. Leaving a drive spinning all the time will wear out the bearing and a fragmented drive will wear out the seek mechanism. Harddrives are designed to spin up and waking a drive for a period of use is not harmful to it. Spinning it up over and over, every 10 minutes would be but not in the course of regular use in a system. I set all my drives to spin down and can often work on the system for quite a while before the harddrive spins up as it is being accessed. I have older Pentium systems that I use as test beds and sometimes they can get turned on and off 50 times a day; they're still going strong. So turn things off when not in use. Set the monitor to shut down, set the harddrives to spin down and shut the entire system down when not in use for extended periods, like over night. Your equipment will last longer and your electricity bill will be less. Another thing to keep in mind is that every computer is a vacuum cleaner. Anytime that system is running, it's sucking in dust and crud from the air around it. Even in the cleanest homes dust can build up on the inside quite rapidly. Less runtime is less dust accumulation. Tom Peter Churukian wrote: > Thanks, Tom, for the reply. Well, it's too late now. He's come and gone, > and, yes, it was the power supply. > > I do have another question, though. This guy didn't like my 'screen saver' > settings, where I had my hard disk turn off after a certain length of time. > He said it's hard on the drive (no pun intended) and that I should just let > the thing keep running. I usually turn my computer on in the morning, then > check email, etc. I leave it on, then check back every hour or so for new > emails, etc. Any thoughts? > > Thanks. > > Peter ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:11:35 -0400 From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Macros Try here: http://personal-computer-tutor.com/ Linda knows all about that stuff. Tom Annie wrote: > Would someone send me somewhere to learn how to make a macro in > replying to an email in Outlook? What I have read on Microsoft help > is total greek to me. Thanks Annie > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:57:17 -0500 From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME Thanks, Tom. This tech who installed a new power source went into my 'screen saver' settings and changed everything I had already set up, which to say the least pissed me off. As soon as he left my house I went back and put everything back to the way it was. I don't use a screen saver; I just have the screen go blank (shut down) after a short amount of time. I have the hard drive turn off a short time after that. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME The short answer is that letting things run all the time is mostly bunk. Nothing needs to run constantly unless it has a specific job to do. I'm not sure where this myth got started or what has kept it alive but it wastes energy and it wears out components. Two things tend to go in harddrives and that's the bearings or the head seek mechanism. Leaving a drive spinning all the time will wear out the bearing and a fragmented drive will wear out the seek mechanism. Harddrives are designed to spin up and waking a drive for a period of use is not harmful to it. Spinning it up over and over, every 10 minutes would be but not in the course of regular use in a system. I set all my drives to spin down and can often work on the system for quite a while before the harddrive spins up as it is being accessed. I have older Pentium systems that I use as test beds and sometimes they can get turned on and off 50 times a day; they're still going strong. So turn things off when not in use. Set the monitor to shut down, set the harddrives to spin down and shut the entire system down when not in use for extended periods, like over night. Your equipment will last longer and your electricity bill will be less. Another thing to keep in mind is that every computer is a vacuum cleaner. Anytime that system is running, it's sucking in dust and crud from the air around it. Even in the cleanest homes dust can build up on the inside quite rapidly. Less runtime is less dust accumulation. Tom Peter Churukian wrote: > Thanks, Tom, for the reply. Well, it's too late now. He's come and gone, > and, yes, it was the power supply. > > I do have another question, though. This guy didn't like my 'screen saver' > settings, where I had my hard disk turn off after a certain length of time. > He said it's hard on the drive (no pun intended) and that I should just let > the thing keep running. I usually turn my computer on in the morning, then > check email, etc. I leave it on, then check back every hour or so for new > emails, etc. Any thoughts? > > Thanks. > > Peter ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:58:10 -0500 From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME Thanks for the reply, Dennis. See my latest reply to Tom's answer. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME I've had my hd's fall asleep during some downloads. I'm not a big fan of turning them off. I've also had some problems in the distant past with "screensavers." Don't use them either. Dennis Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME > Thanks, Dennis, for the reply. However, it's too late now, but my computer > is fixed. See my reply to Tom Hunt. I pose another question. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Jenkins" <dennis.jenkins@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:11 PM > Subject: Re: [MCH] Windows ME > > > > I'd get a different computer tech. > > Dennis Jenkins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Churukian" <petervc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:33 PM > Subject: [MCH] Windows ME > > > > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer > tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. > 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier > today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind > feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local > tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an > attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His > reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I > currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I > know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I > convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up > and running again. > > > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one > can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop > (which has Windows XP Home). > > > > Thank you. > > > > Peter ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:52:17 -0000 From: "Vince" <timechaser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Windows ME Are you sure your guy is a tech or a tech wanna-be. Everyone has their own opinion of what they should do on shutting down systems. The um tech you hired should have atleast consulted with you about why you had your settings they way you do and ask if it was ok to change them. Even if it was important to change them when it comes to personal settings he should have atleast explained his reasons for making the changes. Changing things like that would be like someone coming into your house and changing your theromstat without asking or re-arranging your furniture. As for my opinion here is what I do and why, but again it is just me what you do is up to your own decision. Set screen saver for 10 minutes. Reason if sitting at home at night in the dark when my dark screen saver comes on the room dims and it remindes me that my computer is still on and if I am not going to use it anymore I can go turn it off. Set monitor to go off in 20 minutes. Reason if I don't turn off the computer atleast there will be less burinig of the monitor to wear it our and less energey drain on the system. Set hard drives to shut down in one hour. Reason again if I get busy doing something else maybe even for hours the computer will use less energy and not wear out the hard drive as fast. I replace many hard drives at work because they run non stop and do not shut down after an hour. This is fine during business hours but we don't shut our computers off at night and the hard drives are spinning for atleast 12 hours with no use at all. These drives tend to wear out in just about 2-21/2 years. Once I turn my computer on for the day usually in the evening I will let it run until bed time. At that time I will turn it off. Again to save energy and to keep it clean. The longer it runs the dirtier it gets and the faster it wears out. Just think if you started your car and always left it running so you don't have to start it every time you get in. Yes you will save on the wear and tear of the starter but what about the rest of the car. Again this is just what I do. I know many people that I work on computers for that never turn off the machines and use different settings. It is all just a personal thing. --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Peter Churukian" <petervc@...> wrote: > > I need a little clarification before I make an "argument" to a computer tech. I have a somewhat aged Gateway 1.5 Ghz computer with Windows ME (ca. 5 yrs old). It works fine and suits my purposes, that is until earlier today. I heard a loud "pop" and the unit "died." My non-technical mind feels it must be something to due to the power supply. I called a local tech, and when he heard I had Windows ME, he was reluctant to make an attempt to fix. In fact he said to junk my machine and get a new one. His reason was that I won't be able to get antivirus software to protect it. I currently have Norton Internet Security 2005, and it seems to work fine. (I know; I know; anything Norton is not cool, but it serves me well.) I convinced him to come tomorrow anyway to see if he can get my computer up and running again. > > My question is: is there any truth to this person's argument that one can't protect Windows ME machines from viruses? > > If anyone is wondering, I writing and sending this note on my newer laptop (which has Windows XP Home). > > Thank you. > > Peter > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ==MOD RULE: Delete this line & everything below it when responding.== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/messages ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mycomputerheadaches/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mycomputerheadaches-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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