[macvoiceover] Re: for donna, setting application preferences:

  • From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:58:20 -0400

David,
I don't know what you meant when you told her how to open a new website. For me, I can just press command l, press the delete key once and type. And actually I press the delete key because I'm obsessive, but if you just press command l and start typing it will overwrite whatever was on the address field with your new website.
On Jul 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

Donna,

The document you have is for voice over on the Mac. Ther are a ton of documents on icanworkthisthing.com which you should read and a lot of what you need is also in the help for the app you are looking at. The difference between mac and windows for us is that when we learn something about the mac, we can use our knowledge of voiceover to apply it. Also, the mac is simpler because there is not a lot of difference between applications other than their functions and there is much less hoopla all the way through the mac. User friendly is a relative term but I guarantee you that the learning curve for the mac is less steep than that for windows and the ease of use is much greater.

If a page is stored in your bookmarks you can open it from there or if you go to google from the location bar and type something in the search and find a page you can open it from there so that's why I said the familiar. If you have a lot of bookmarks/favorites in windows, you can export them and then import them into safari.

On Jul 17, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi David,

First, thanks for all of this. I really am trying to be fair and objective, but I think I'm alittle surprised. I had always heard that Mac is so much more user-friendly than Windows, and I'm finding it to be completely the opposite. Now granted, I have been using Windows for a lot of years, but what's frustrating me the most is not that I don't know what I'm doing, but
that  I can never find answers to what seem to me to be pretty basic
questions.

So, I get the bit about command comma. But when you were talking about
opening webpages, you said "if you want the familiar".  Is what you
described the typical way to go to a new page?

Also, if you don't mind another question, I'm wondering about documentation. I actually embossed the bRF copy of the manual from the Apple site, but am not finding it to be very helpful. For example, in the section on Safari, there were just a few paragraphs on the different ways you can organize a web page (view by links, by groups etc). Do you know of any documentation
that is more thorough?

Thanks a lot again!
Best,
Donna
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Subject: [macvoiceover] for donna, setting application preferences:

Hi Donna,

I left out an answer to one of your questions because I wanted o kill
a few birds with one proverbial stone.

When you want to change something about an app, it is often done in
preferences.  windows has this stuff all over the place and there is
never a way to know where it is.  Not so thewith  mac, in every app,
command-comma brings up it prefs, tis includes the finder.

You asked how to set a home page in safari, this is your answer.


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