Hi, This is really interesting. Is there a begginners tutorial on programing for the mac? thanks, ash On 7 Jan 2010, at 20:34, Bryan Smart wrote: > Hi everyone. I'm writing here to make you all aware of an exciting > development over on the MV-Dev Google Group that will impact all VoiceOver > users positively, and will impact VoiceOver users that are programmers even > more so. > > As some of you might know, XCode is the main software development environment > for the Mac. It is a huge system, but the two main tools are the XCode > integrated development environment (where you write your code and build the > code in to finished programs), and Interface Builder (where you design the > menus, windows, and other parts of the interface that people will use to > operate your program). Over the last few years, the accessibility of XCode > has been greatly improving, and, currently, a blind programmer can operate > most every part of it that they would need to create programs. However, > Interface Builder has been a different story. Interface Builder requires that > programmers create the new program's interface by dragging user interface > objects from a library window on to a design surface that represents the > program's eventual interface. VoiceOver's drag and drop features weren't > compatible with Interface Builder, so blind programmers weren't able to add > user interface objects to their programs. > > Recently, though, a few of us on the MV-Dev Google Group have figured out an > alternative approach. We're still working out some details regarding the best > way to arrange objects, but blind programmers on the Mac can now use > Interface Builder to create their program's user interface by adding objects > to menus and windows, can position objects on design surfaces, and can edit > the outlets and other programmatic connections between objects and classes in > their code. > > Before our recent discovery, I'd searched the web extensively in the hope > that someone had worked out a way for blind programmers to use Interface > Builder, but all I saw was thread after thread on the Apple Accessibility > list MacVisionaries, and other forums where people had asked, but had come up > empty handed. I hope that those that were discouraged in the past will be > excited about this development, and will get involved with programming for > the Mac. > > If you know a VoiceOver user that is interested in programming for the Mac, > please let them know about the MV-Dev Google Group and what is now possible. > Since we can now create software, complete with graphical user interfaces, > they should join us and get up to speed. The fact that blind coders can now > create applications with interfaces will undoubtedly mean that we can expect > to see an increasing number of software tools to improve how we use Macs. > > Here is the link to the Google Group: > > http://groups.google.com/group/mv-dev > > If someone would repost to MacVisionaries, I'd appreciate it. My membership > request has been pending for over a week on that list, so I'm unable to post > there. > > Bryan >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> personal website: www.ashleycox.co.uk > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >