cool! ash On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:08, Jonathan Chacón wrote: > Hello, > > I'm writing a basic tutorial about create a hello world app for MacOS using > voiceOver and xCode > > I'll publish it soon. I hope do it today > I'll publish the tutorial in english and spanish > > regards > Jonathan Chacón > > El 08/01/2010, a las 09:05, ashley escribió: > >> Hi, >> >> This is really interesting. Is there a begginners tutorial on programing for >> the mac? >> >> thanks, >> >> ash >> On 7 Jan 2010, at 20:34, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone. I'm writing here to make you all aware of an exciting >>> development over on the MV-Dev Google Group that will impact all VoiceOver >>> users positively, and will impact VoiceOver users that are programmers even >>> more so. >>> >>> As some of you might know, XCode is the main software development >>> environment for the Mac. It is a huge system, but the two main tools are >>> the XCode integrated development environment (where you write your code and >>> build the code in to finished programs), and Interface Builder (where you >>> design the menus, windows, and other parts of the interface that people >>> will use to operate your program). Over the last few years, the >>> accessibility of XCode has been greatly improving, and, currently, a blind >>> programmer can operate most every part of it that they would need to create >>> programs. However, Interface Builder has been a different story. Interface >>> Builder requires that programmers create the new program's interface by >>> dragging user interface objects from a library window on to a design >>> surface that represents the program's eventual interface. VoiceOver's drag >>> and drop features weren't compatible with Interface Builder, so blind >>> programmers weren't able to add user interface objects to their programs. >>> >>> Recently, though, a few of us on the MV-Dev Google Group have figured out >>> an alternative approach. We're still working out some details regarding the >>> best way to arrange objects, but blind programmers on the Mac can now use >>> Interface Builder to create their program's user interface by adding >>> objects to menus and windows, can position objects on design surfaces, and >>> can edit the outlets and other programmatic connections between objects and >>> classes in their code. >>> >>> Before our recent discovery, I'd searched the web extensively in the hope >>> that someone had worked out a way for blind programmers to use Interface >>> Builder, but all I saw was thread after thread on the Apple Accessibility >>> list MacVisionaries, and other forums where people had asked, but had come >>> up empty handed. I hope that those that were discouraged in the past will >>> be excited about this development, and will get involved with programming >>> for the Mac. >>> >>> If you know a VoiceOver user that is interested in programming for the Mac, >>> please let them know about the MV-Dev Google Group and what is now >>> possible. Since we can now create software, complete with graphical user >>> interfaces, they should join us and get up to speed. The fact that blind >>> coders can now create applications with interfaces will undoubtedly mean >>> that we can expect to see an increasing number of software tools to improve >>> how we use Macs. >>> >>> Here is the link to the Google Group: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/mv-dev >>> >>> If someone would repost to MacVisionaries, I'd appreciate it. My membership >>> request has been pending for over a week on that list, so I'm unable to >>> post there. >>> >>> Bryan >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >> >> >> personal website: >> www.ashleycox.co.uk >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> personal website: www.ashleycox.co.uk > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >