[macvoiceover] Re: Voice over not turning off
- From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:11:19 -0600
Only issue would be if something in Voiceover isn't letting the unit kick into
standby. Recall the runaway app problems with a lot of our 3GS units running
Voiceover in the early days.
One thing you can do Larry is check your usage in the settings app. Check the
times in the usage log, then let the phone sit for a few minutes, a normal time
for the phone to be into standby, then leave it for a few more minutes. Check
your usage again, and if the time number have gone up by the same amount, the
phone didn't kick into standby, and something is keeping it from doing so. You
can do the same thing with Voiceover off, and that should show if it's
something with the running of Voiceover. Not sure where to go from there, but
if you have this information when you contact accessibility support they'll
have a better shot at troubleshooting.
Peace,
Ian
On 2013-05-21, at 11:01 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Ricardo,
>
> What I meant to say and said it very badly, is, that I don't think that it is
> a problem, but, is a normal function of Voiceover. I did not mean to say
> that it should not be discussed here, but, that I don't believe that it is a
> problem, as a matter of fact, it may be helpful. Maybe I have explained my
> comments a little better.
> Keith Reedy
> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Actually, I think this is related to Voiceover. But, I don't think its a
>> problem like you mentioned. When using Voiceover, the speaker stays active
>> for maybe 10 to 15 seconds on average after your phone has been locked.
>> This is why as soon as you lock your device, if you press the up or down
>> volume, you will here that popping effect VO makes when the volume buttons
>> are depressed. Wait another minute or 2, press it again, and you will not
>> here the noise.
>>
>> I bring this up because, sometimes your device not properly go into standby,
>> and this is a good way to figure out if its happening to you.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>>
>> On May 21, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Larry,
>>>
>>> I don't think that this is a problem and really does not relate to
>>> Voiceover. I think that you will find that there are parts of the phone
>>> that stay active because of the normal working of the phone. If this is
>>> something that bothers you I would take it up with support.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Keith Reedy
>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Smith Larry <Larry.Smith2@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't happen when using any particular app. It happens any time
>>>> the phone is unlocked and voiceover is active. If I triple press the home
>>>> button to turn voiceover off, the speaker goes out in a few seconds. The
>>>> same thing happens when I lock the screen. However, if I do a three finger
>>>> double tap to turn off speech, the speaker still stays on. If I leave the
>>>> screen unlocked and just sitting there doing absolutely nothing, the
>>>> speaker will not turn off.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Edwards
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Voice over not turning off
>>>>
>>>> Just gave it a try, couldn't tell that the speaker was hot. Will try again
>>>> in a quieter environment when I get a chance though.
>>>>
>>>> I seem to get about the same battery performance as my non-voiceover using
>>>> friends and family.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a specific app you're using that you notice it on?
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if you have some sort of raise to speak option enabled, so
>>>> that when you put the phone to your ear the accelerometer and proximety
>>>> sensor wake the phone up. Sort of like the light in the fridge that comes
>>>> on every time the door opens.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, my understanding is the list is for all things Voiceover.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> On 2013-05-21, at 9:28 AM, Smith Larry <Larry.Smith2@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks. I know this is the list for Mac users, but I know that there
>>>>> are also iPhone users on this list also. I can't send this message to the
>>>>> viphone list from where I am at the moment. I'm just curious to know if
>>>>> anyone else has noticed that voiceover seems to keep the sound open until
>>>>> the phone is locked. In other words, if the phone is unlocked, if you
>>>>> raise the phone speaker to your ear, you can hear that the speaker is
>>>>> still on. If I lock the phone, it then go silent. Is this how it is
>>>>> suppose to work? If you turn voiceover off, or lock the phone, the sound
>>>>> goes away. This has to contribute to a big drain on the battery. I'm
>>>>> using an iPhone 5, 64 GB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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