Hi everyone, I guess I must go into more detail, so you understand the reasoning of my colleagues. I did not want to do it in the list, but since I got replies here, I will give it a try. My personal feeling is that a total newcomer would indeed quickly learn to use the Mac. There are already German voices available, which you have to download separately. And they have the best artificial speech quality I have heard so far. Also, they respond more quickly than the SAPI 5 voices available for JAWS. So that's a big plus for a newcomer already. However: When we start teaching JAWS, we can let people go quite a way without having to know any JAWS commands: The press the Windows Key and are in the start Menue. They can select programs, we can teach them to start a program, we can direct them to a file and have them read that file with just the cursor keys. If we would try to do the same on the Mac, we would rather quickly come to the point where we have to explain to them the concept of interacting with an object. On the other hand - that is the argument I bring into the discussion - Once you understand that concept and know only seven VO commands, you can get very far on an Apple computer: Thats the combinations for starting and ending interaction, vo+spacebar and vo+cursor keys in their four directions. But that's all our thinking. I am looking for someone who has actually tried it with a total newcomer or - even better - who has experience with teaching newcomers under Windows and Snow Leopard. Is there such a person? Best greetings again, Norbert > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >