I have sent your message to John Hess who is a trainer and I think he will be able to help you. Keith Reedy Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from Bibles For The Blind. http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Norbert Müller wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I guess I must go into more detail, so you understand the reasoning of my > colleagues. I did not want to do it in the list, but since I got replies > here, I will give it a try. > > My personal feeling is that a total newcomer would indeed quickly learn to > use the Mac. There are already German voices available, which you have to > download separately. And they have the best artificial speech quality I have > heard so far. Also, they respond more quickly than the SAPI 5 voices > available for JAWS. So that's a big plus for a newcomer already. > > However: When we start teaching JAWS, we can let people go quite a way > without having to know any JAWS commands: The press the Windows Key and are > in the start Menue. They can select programs, we can teach them to start a > program, we can direct them to a file and have them read that file with just > the cursor keys. > > If we would try to do the same on the Mac, we would rather quickly come to > the point where we have to explain to them the concept of interacting with an > object. > > On the other hand - that is the argument I bring into the discussion - Once > you understand that concept and know only seven VO commands, you can get very > far on an Apple computer: Thats the combinations for starting and ending > interaction, vo+spacebar and vo+cursor keys in their four directions. > > But that's all our thinking. I am looking for someone who has actually tried > it with a total newcomer or - even better - who has experience with teaching > newcomers under Windows and Snow Leopard. Is there such a person? > > Best greetings again, > > > Norbert > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >