Back when I was a windows user, I had an Acer lap top which did not have a number key pad. When I bought this brand new Mac book Pro, I knew I'd be using the numpad commander; so, I had the dealer order me a Mac compatible USB number key pad. I turned on my Mac and then plugged in the key pad only to discover that it could not be recognized. Then, I turned everything off and disconnected the keypad. Then, I reconnected the keypad still with the Mac off. when I turned it on, the number keypad was recognized right away. You do have another option just in case you don't want to bother with a number keypad. It's called quick nav. It's meant to make things easier when you're using a Mac Book Pro; and, in some respects, it does. However, you must remember to turn quick nav off when you need to use the arrow keys after you've indicated that you need to interact with text. To stop interacting with text, or what ever, you need to turn quick nav back on then indicate to stop interacting. Just in case you're wondering, it's very easy. Turn quick nav on or off by pressing the left and right arrow keys together. To interact, (assuming quick nav is on), press the down and right arrows together. To stop interacting, press the down and left arrows together. To perform an action on an item, (this would be the same as using VO+space bar), press the up and down arrows together. IF you're in text, or not online on a web site, and you press up arrow and left or right together, you cycle through a roter control. IF you're on a web site, this roter cycles you through the same items to be found in the web item roter to which you can get by pressing vo+u. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!! Now a Mac User!!! Phone: +1 (985) 360-3614 E-mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Phil Stephenson wrote: Hi All, Picking up on another thread from someone asking about using a Mac Mini and types of keyboards, I am close to purchasing a macbook (or if I'm lucky Macbook pro!). I'm presuming there isn't a numeric keypad on these units and therefore wondering if this makes my learning curve as a Windows user used to Jaws etc steeper - although having said that I've never really mastered the laptop keystrokes for replicating Jaws numeric keypad options on a laptop keyboard. Anyway as ever al comments gratefully received, Cheers, Phil __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4668 (20091207) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com