Hi steve, just vo left arrow until you hear tool bar, then interact with it with vo shift down arrow, which will reveal the buttons inside the tool bar that sighted people use for quickly doing things. When you get to a button you want, press vo space bar on it, and it will activate, but sometimes, you have to stop interacting with the tool bar after pressing the button, as it may appear the button you chose didn't get pressed, but it did. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:11:40 +1000, Steven D Hurd wrote: Hi Ash, how do you get into the tool bar? I am pritty new to the mac, but love it. I am working out most things, but I wasn't aware of the tool bar. Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ashley cox Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2009 2:22 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] IN the menu bar. Hi, another quick question if that's OK. When i'm in the menu bar, and I press esc to get out of it, nothing happens. I have to alt+tab to get out of the menu bar. This is the same when in the doc and the toolbar where it says the volume levels, and the time. Is this a voice over problem? Anything I can do to fix it? Thanks for your help. Ash > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > Marty