No, Neal! No grade school for you. Just a little self-tutoring in the good old home environment, and you'll be just fine!!! LOL!
On May 7, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:
Ah, but of course, you have to first interact with that list before it works. Oh well, it's back to grade school. Smile. Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:32 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Having VoiceOver start at log-in Hi all, using voice over navigation, find "users, groups and login options". Navigate streight down and you will find the checkbox. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Having VoiceOver start at log-inRich, this is what I found as well by navigating. The only tabs I could see were two tabs (password, and login items. Login items seemed not to contain anything about VoiceOver. I'll go play some more. The chooser did work,however. And perhaps, so will my brain on second pass. Then again... Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:13 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Having VoiceOver start at log-insorry, I'm not seeing this behavior, all controls and tabs speak using voiceover navigateion for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Having VoiceOver start at log-in Not sitting at the mac right now, but I had a hell of a time with thismyself. The issue is that there is an unlabeled (actually completely silent)control which switches you between pages in the dialog. The page whichappears when you first enter it has two tabs (password, and login items).What you need to do is to tab around until you land on a control that doesn't speak. Y You then need to hit downArrow once then examine the dialog again. Youshould now find the setting for starting voiceOver at login. Note that you can't find this control with voKeys+rightArrow. It does not have a label andit has no type either, so VoiceOver just doesn't see it. The only way youcan get to it is via the tab key (it is in the tab order of the application).Maybe someone else with a mac in front of them can give better directions, but its not obvious how to do this in my opinion. I spent over an hourtrying to figure this out before I found that unlabeled control. Hope this helps. -- Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Neal Ewers To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Having VoiceOver start at log-in Hi all, I have tried to follow Apple's instructions to have VoiceOverstart at log-in with no luck. The following is taken from a file I justreceived from Apple.1 Click the System Preferences icon in the Dock or choose Apple menu >System Preferences to open System Preferences. 2 Click Accounts. 3 Click Login Options below the accounts list.If the Login Options button is dimmed, click the lock icon at the bottomof theAccounts window and type an administrator's name and password to unlockthe window. 4 Select the checkbox labeled "Use VoiceOver at login window."OK, I have entered my password and have looked at the two tabs that are there I have tried to add a log-in item, but I don't see VoiceOver listedthere at all. What am I missing? Thanks much. 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