John,
I could have not said it better.
It is always a challenge to keep a list like this running and
running on topic.
We now have nearly 200 list members and most of those members are
willing to keep it Voiceover, however, from time to time, some of
our members will stray off topic. Every time this happens, we
loose a few of those who wish to learn about Voiceover. This is
the reason I have had this list in moderation most of the time for
the last month.
It is really so simple, just reply to the sender of an off topic
message off list.
It is really not a whole lot of fun to read through 25 messages 2,
or, 3 times a day and pass along those which are on topic.
I really want a good list where I can come to find Voiceover
answers, don't you? The answer is, I really think most of us do.
It really does not take a lot of work to reply to some of this
stuff off list.
Keith Reedy
On Jul 11, 2009, at 4:24 PM, John Hess wrote:
Good day to all. I feel a need to write regarding the off topic
messages on this list. If you look at the subject of this
message and read what I am actually replying to you will no doubt
see that that the message below this has "absolutely" nothing to
do with voiceover or the IPHone. This list was designed
specifically for learning about Voiceover. It was not designed to
talk about vm ware, jaws, windows, or other subjects. Although
there is much room for this type of discussion and these things
should definitely be encouraged, this is not the list to for
alternative topics. Over the past few weeks the IPHone has
caused quite a stir and for great reasons. However, it is
extremely important for people to realize that not everyone has
an IPHone and not everyone wants to know about them. it is for
this reason that IPHone must be placed in the subject line so
that people can bypass the messages they don't want to see. I
would go even further to state that IPHone questions and
information should be limited specifically to using the IPHone
with Voiceover. Again, not to squelch the vast amount of info
available but this is not the place for topics other then
voiceover. One of the things that sets this list apart is the
fact that people can come here to learn about VoiceOver and
exchange ideas about "VoiceOVer". Now, of course it could be
argued that comparisons are necessary for people to make
decisions and perhaps they are. BUT NOT HERE!!!! So, as a list
member I would sincerely appreciate it if people would stick to
the guidelines set forth by the moderator. I am sure I have
errored here in replying to some things and will be sure to reply
to the sender only if there is an inquiry not pertinent to
VoiceOVer. I sincerely thank you for your consideration and look
forward to learning more about voiceover both on the IPHone and
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