[macnv] Re: garage band era Re: acquisto tastiera
- From: rossy <phonerossy@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:39:30 +0100
ciao angelo ,
pur troppo siamo tutti alle prime armi con gb e oltre il manuale uffficiale io
posso solo indicarti questo allegato che riassume le attività con gb ma è in
inglese.
rk
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\f0\fs20 \cf0 *** GarageBand5 with SnowLeopard, Tracks and Effects volume 02\
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In this guide we will cover:\
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elenco di 5 elementi\
1. Creating a new track in your GarageBand project. \
2. punch-in. \
3. Changing, Tempo, signature and key, after you have begun your GarageBand
project. \
4. Copy and paste in GarageBand5. \
5. Effects \
fine elenco\
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Creating a new Track in your GarageBand Project.\
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Creating a new track is done with\
command-option-n. You will be ask to choose one of the buttons for either a
software instrument or a real instrument as with a microphone., or, Electric\
guitar.\
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Note the electric guitar function will also work with a microphone for you who
use an acoustic guitar.\
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You will need to choose these with VO keys-right or left arrow keys. When you
have chosen one of these buttons, select the button with, VO keys-space bar.\
Now tab to creat and press, VO keys-space bar.\
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You are now ready to record.\
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One of the unique things you can do in GarageBand is name your tracks.\
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While you are in your track, use the item chooser and find the save instrument
button VO keys-space bar on this button and you will be presented with an\
edit box. Type in the name and right arrow to save and press VO keys-space bar.\
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When you have a few tracks created, you can find a list of your tracks. Just VO
keys-right arrow to the right of the scroll area. You can choose your track\
by using the up and down arrow keys and using VO keys-a to read the name of
your track.\
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GarageBand keeps a list of the track names you have created, so that you can
use them again.\
To find this list, with the item chooser search for unknown and interact. You
will find a list of all of the names you have created. To choose one, land\
on it and stop interacting.\
Make sure that you have, show track info on in menus and make sure that the
show all button is showing in the track window.\
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You can arrow up and down through the list of tracks you have created, until
you hear the name of the track you wish to work with, solo that track if you\
wish with the letter s, pressing the letter s again will take solo off. You are
now ready to do what ever work you want to do on your selected track. When\
you are finished, don't forget to lock your track, so that you don't
accidentally record over your work and to save system resources.\
l to lock your track and l to unlock your track. \
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Punch-in.\
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Punch-in is done when you need to record over a part of a track that you have
already recorded.\
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GarageBand allows you to move around in a song just as you would with a
cassette player, or, an old analog tape transport. To move around in your
project\
use command-option-right or left arrow keys.\
First of all, make sure that you are in the correct track, by pressing s to
sample your track, press s again to go back to full song. Each one of your\
tracks should be named. You can also select your tracks in the scroll area.
This is where the track information is located, by pressing up arrow for a\
higher track and down arrow for a lower track and VO keys-right arrow to the
right to check the name. Go to the part of the track that you want to record\
over, just before the place that you want to record over, press "r" to record.\
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Press the space bar to stop recording\
Lock your track with l and\
unlock your track with l\
You will want to lock your tracks so that you don't record over your work and
to save system resources\
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Good recordings are hard work, but, the finished product will make you smile.\
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\'a0\'a0\'a0\'a0\'a0Changing, Tempo, Time Signature and Key, after you have
begun Your GarageBand Project.\
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First of all, make sure that your track info is showing, command-i to toggle on
and off, or from the tracks menu.\
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Next, VO keys-right arrow to the master track Checkbox and check it with VO
keys-space bar.\
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Now, VO keys-right arrow, until you hear tempo, then you can begin to change
these parameters to your liking\'a0\'a0\'a0\'a0\'a0\
Copy and Paste in GarageBand5\
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You can copy and paste in GarageBand, from track to track or from project to
project by doing the following.\
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This may be most used when recording a podcast. Lets say you have recorded an
interview that you want to put in to your podcast. It has been recorded on\
1 track, or in another projecct. and the begining of the interview is at the
begining of the track and the end of the interview is clean.\
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Please take the time to record clean. Please take the time to plan your
project. Know what you want it to sound like when you are done, then plan the
steps\
to make that happen. If you take the time to do your project well and do each
step the number of times that it takes to get it right, the word "edit" will\
never cross your mind.\
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Now go to the track where you have your interview, podcast intro, or, whatever
it is you want to move and select all with command-a, then after a few seconds,\
command-c to copy.\
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But you say I have already sent my interview to iTunes. No problem You can move
anything from any of your play list in iTunes from the media browser.\
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Do the following. \
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elenco di 9 elementi\
1. Create an empty GarageBand project and call it something like moving
drop-ins. \
2. Create a new track, a real instrument track will be fine. \
3. While in your empty project, use the item chooser to search for the audio
button and select it. Now use VO keys-end to go to the media browser box and\
checkit. \
4. Using the item chooser find the horizontal splitter. Vo keys-leftarrow once
will take you in to a list of your play list and to the right of the splitter\
will be a list of the items in that play list. \
5. When you land on the item you want to move move the mouse to that item with
VO keys-command-f5. \
6. Now interact with the item and make sure that the mouse is on the item with
VO keys-f5. \
7. With the mouse keys enabled on the num-pad, hold down the 5 and 4 keys for
no longer than 5 seconds. \
8. With the item chooser find the scroll area and command-a to select all and
press command-c to copy. \
9. Close your once empty GarageBand project. \
fine elenco\
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Now find your project and create a new real instrument track. Now listen to
your project until you find the place where you want your copied information\
to be place, press the spacebar to stop your project, then, command-v to paste.
If it is not exactly where you want it, command-z to undo and try it again.\
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By having information on separate tracks you can vary levels or EQ until it
sounds right to you.\
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Effects\
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To begin using effects, using the Item Chooser, look for and select the edit
button.\
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Use the item chooser to find Master track and check this box.\
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This will take you into a list of effects. Many effects from noise
gate,equalization, echo and reverb and the list goes on\
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The one we will talk about here is echo since it is the one that is the most
easily noticeable. First of all, make sure the box that allows echo is checked\
with VO keys spacebar then VO keys right arrow past another button and check
box or 2 until you come to a horizontal slider which, by default, should be\
at zero. Interact with this slider to adjust the amount of echo you would like.
After you have done this and given your track a try you may decide that\
the length of the echo is too long or the number of echoes are too many. Here's
how to adjust them\
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Use the item chooser to find echo and move once to the right with VO keys-right
arrow to a button that will say manual if it is in the default state.\
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Now, VO-space on this button and a list of a number of echo presets will drop
down.\
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When you have made your changes, you can exit that menu with escape.\
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Not all effects windows are created equal, take for instance, the EQ or
equalizer window, known as Visual EQ..\
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Using the item chooser find visual EQ.\
Now VO keys-left arrow to the checkbox and check it.\
Now VO keys-right arrow 3 times to a button which should say manual in its
default state..\
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You will see a drop down list of preset equalization choices. Once you have
chosen one, you may leave this menu with escape.\
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When you are finished with effects be sure to return your screen to its normal
state by, unchecking the master track box and if it will not uncheck, VO\
keys-left arrow once and check this box with VO keys-space bar and by
deselecting the edit button and if it will not deselect, move once to the left
with\
VO keys-left arrow and select that button with VO keys-space bar..\
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To try to explain every effects function would be a daunting task, but,
hopefully this will give you an idea of how it works.\
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Keith Reedy\
*** Working with Loops in GarageBand 5 volume 03\
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Feel free to pass this around.\
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Please read all of this document before trying to work with loops. I know that
reading guides is not a whole lot of fun, but, in this case, it really is\
necessary. If you leave out a step, it won't work for you.\
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***It is highly reckamended that you have 2 GIG of ram , to allow Snow Leopard
and, or, GarageBand 5 to run most effectively.\
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If you are going to be working with GarageBand 5, please take the time to
download the GarageBand 5 guides, as they become available from:\
www.icanworkthisthing.com\
under MAC with Voiceover in Audio and Recording with Mac and Voiceover,\
or at: \
http://www.lioncourt.com/\
or \
http://groups.google.com/group/vimac-audio/web?hl=en\
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From time to time, I may be quoting from the Book,\
Take Control of Making Music with GarageBand, GET THIS BOOK!\
I don't have all of the answers, but, maybe just enough of the answers to help
you to find the rest of the answers for all of us.\
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But first of all, onto moving a loop.\
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This will be helpful; pressing c will make your loop repeat and pressing c
again will make it stop.\
Using the item chooser find track info and media browser and uncheck these
boxes.\
In menus, under control menu, press enter on "show loop browser, \
or just press command-l, or use the item chooser and type loop, which should
take you to the show loop browser box and check it.\
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Before you go any farther, what do you want to do? Loops, jingles, stingers and
sound effects are separated.\
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Using the item chooser again, search for podcast. You should land on the
Podcast Sounds View button. Now you can choose from the Musical Buttons View or\
Podcast Sounds View Button.\
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If you choose Podcast Sounds View Button, you need to make yet another choice.\
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With the item chooser, search for Unknown and VO keys-space on this choice.
Down arrow to a list of choices.\
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If you choose the Musical Buttons View, you will find a group of check boxes.\
The first thing is to move your selection from the loop browser to the tracks
window, or scroll area. Once you have done this, GarageBand will create a\
new track for your loop.\
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Apple has made things a good deal easier in GarageBand 5 and Snow Leopard, in
that now the loops buttons are overlaid with checkboxes which give the name\
of the loop type. To choose a type,, check the box.\
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How does this work? As you check a box to select an instrument, mood, genre,
etc, the number of entries in your list will change to reflect your choices.\
To find the list, using the item chooser, VO keys-i, search for horizontal
spliter. VO keys-space on it and move once to the right with VO keys right
arrow\
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If you like, you can also search for loops, another way of doing the same
thing.\
Searching for loops. Do the following. With the item chooser, VO keys-i, search
for, "search text field". Once you have found this field, leave the item\
chooser with VO keys-space bar. Now type in your choice, lets say drums and
press enter.\
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Using the item chooser again, search for, horizontal spliter. Vo keys-space on
this and VO keys right arrow once to the table. You should find a list of\
choices.\
You will see the name of the loop, sound, jingle, or, stinger, and some
information about it. If the table is empty, move 3 times to the right with, VO\
keys-right arrow to the search field and try another search.\
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If you do have choices in the table, Interact with one of the names on the list
and make sure the mouse is on the name, with, VO keys-f5. If it is not,\
route the mouse to the name of the loop with, VO keys-command-f5 and check with
VO keys-f5 to make sure that the mouse has moved.\
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Now that you have found your loop, you need to move it to your project. \
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1 Make sure that num-pad-commander is turned off.\
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2 Make sure that you have mouse keys enabled.\
Mouse-keys has to be set up by going to System Preferences > Universal Access.
In the Mouse tab, you can enable mouse-keys and/or check the check box so\
that pressing the option key five times toggles mouse-keys on and off. You will
hear a sound something like an electronic rattle snake every time it toggles\
on or off.. \
Once mouse-keys is enabled, you can use mouse-keys by pressing the option key
five times quickly to turn mouse-keys on or off.\
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At this point you can play your loop with the 5 key on the num-pad and stop it
with the 5 key again. When you find one you like, you can move your loop\
in to your project by doing the following:\
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If you have a num-pad, Press and hold the 5 and 4 keys for a count of about 4
or 5 seconds. You will need to practice with this to get it right, your loop\
has landed and GarageBand has created a new track with your loop in it.\
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***, note, I have not done full instructions for those who use laptops, I did
not have one handy. If someone would like to do this, I will add those
instructions\
to the guide. \
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A loop is only a few seconds long, and, you may want it on the track for longer
than a few seconds, for instants a drum loop, so, do the following while\
you are on the loop. in the scroll area of your project, Press command-c to
copy the loop. Make sure that you are at the begining of the song, not at the\
end of \'a0the loop and start pasting. \'a0Paste as many times as you need to.
\'a0No brake, no fake!\
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You may want to add another loop, jingle, stinger, or, sound somewhere in your
music project, or, short podcast. Use the same process outlined above, but,\
this time:\
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1. Play your project to the place where you want to drop in something new.
Remember, GarageBand 5 will create a new track for each drop-in you add. This\
makes it possible for you to set levels or EQ each dropin.\
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2. this time, as you hold down the 5 and 4 Keys, hold them down for about 3
seconds. \
***This is assuming, that your project is 1 minute, to, 1minute and 30 seconds
long. If your project is longer, 3, 5 minutes, you will need to hold the\
5 and 4 keys longer. It takes some time for your dropin to move across the
timeline. The longer the timeline, the more time it takes.\
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If your drop-in is not quite where you want it, press command-z to undo, follow
the instructions above and adjust your count.\
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It takes a little practice, but, you can do this.\
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Adding drop ins to your longer podcast\
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The above method works well for a small project, just a few minutes long, but
if you want to put something in to a 45 minute podcast, this will be helpful.\
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You can add a jingle, stinger, or, sound to your podcast and put it just where
you want it.\
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Do the following:\
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elenco di 7 elementi\
1. Create a blank GarageBand project and call it something like, moving
drop-ins. \
2. Using the steps above copy your drop-in in to this project. \
3. While in the scroll area, use command-a to select all. \
4. Command-c to copy. \
5. Go to your podcast, or project and create a new software instrument track.
I, or real instrument track if it is something other than a loop.f \
6. find the place where you want the drop in to be placed and pause your
recording with the space bar. \
7. Paste your drop-in in to your newly created track with Command-v. \
fine elenco\
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If it is not exactly where you want it, press command-z to undo and paste it
again.\
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Using the same method you can create a drum track which last as long as you
want it.\
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Using the method outlined above paste your drum loop in to your project. Now
command-c to copy your drum loop. After you have selected and copied your loop\
from the scrol area, make sure that you are at the begining of the song, not at
the end of \'a0the loop and start pasting. \'a0Paste as many times as you need\
to. \'a0No brake, no fake!\
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That's it! You are done. And I am done, at least for now.\
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Special thanks to, my wife Suzie for helping me to learn these screens.\
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Keith Reedy\
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wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx\
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Garageband5 with SnowLeopard Keyboard shortcuts, volume 001 \
Use these keyboard shortcuts to play, navigate, and edit in GarageBand.\
I have not tried every one of these,but a random check tells me that for the
most part they work, travel at your own risk.\
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Action Shortcut \
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Move a loop, jingle, stinger, or sound from the loops browser by holding the 5
and 4 keys down on the num-pad with the mouse keys enabled until the loop\
is where you want it.\
Lock and unlock your track with l\
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Playback and Navigation \
Start or stop playback Space bar \
Go to beginning Return or Z or Home \
Go to end Option-Z or End \
Move back one measure Left arrow \
Move forward one measure Right arrow \
Move back the visible width of the timeline Page up \
Move forward the visible width of the \
timeline \
Page down \
Zoom out Control-Left arrow \
Zoom in Control-Right arrow \
Tracks \
Create a new track Command-Option-N \
Create a new Basic track Command-Shift-N \
Duplicate the selected track Command-D \
Delete the selected track Command-Delete \
Select the next higher track Up arrow \
Select the next lower track Down arrow \
Mute/Unmute the selected track M \
Solo/Unsolo the selected track S \
Show/Hide the track's volume and pan curves A \
Show/Hide the master track Command-B \
Show/Hide the podcast track Command-Shift-B \
Show/Hide the video track Command-Option-B \
Track Info pane \
Show/Hide the Track Info pane Command-I \
Select the next higher category or instrument Up arrow \
Select the next lower category or instrument Down arrow \
Move from instrument list to category list Left arrow \
Move from category list to instrument list Right arrow \
Editing and Arranging \
Undo Command-Z \
Redo Command-Shift-Z \
Cut Command-X \
Copy Command-C \
Paste Command-V \
Delete Delete \
Select all Command-A \
Split selected region Command-T \
Join selected regions Command-J \
Snap to grid Command-G \
Enable/Disable ducking Command-Shift-F \
Recording \
Start or stop recording R \
Turn the cycle region on/off C \
Turn the metronome on/off Command-U \
Turn count in on/off Command-Shift-U \
Show/Hide instrument tuner Command-F \
Notation View \
Move selected notes to previous grid position Left arrow \
Move selected notes to next grid position Right arrow \
Move selected notes back one measure Shift-Left arrow \
Move selected notes forward one measure Shift-Right arrow \
Transpose selected notes up one semitone Up arrow \
Transpose selected notes down one semitone Down arrow \
Transpose selected notes up one octave Shift-Up arrow \
Transpose selected notes down one octave Shift-Down arrow \
Adjusting Master Volume \
Raise master volume Command-Up arrow \
Lower master volume Command-Down arrow \
Showing Windows and Editors \
Show track mixer Command-Y \
Show Track Info pane Command-I \
Show editor Command-E \
Show loop browser Command-L \
Show/Hide Media Browser Command-R \
Show onscreen keyboard Command-K \
Show Musical Typing window Command-Shift-K \
File menu commands \
Create new project Command-N \
Open an existing project Command-O \
Close the current project Command-W \
Save the current project Command-S \
Save As Command-Shift-S \
Application menu commands \
Show/Hide GarageBand Preferences Command-comma (,) \
Hide GarageBand Command-H \
Hide other applications Command-Option-H \
Quit GarageBand Command-Q \
Help menu commands \
Open GarageBand Help Command-question mark (?) \
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}Il giorno 20/nov/2009, alle ore 06.09, ANGELO CAIROLI ha scritto:
> ciao da angelo,
> i suoni di garageband, sono grandiosi.
> Piccoli problema quando tento di fare una traccia, ad esempio,
> con chitarra, e poi vado a farne un'altra mi cambia il suono.
> Come devo fare per sentire la prima traccia e registrare la seconda e non mi
> cambi il suono della prima?
> la mia tastiera m-audio.
> il mio contatto skype P girasole47 chi mi da una mano ringrazio.
> Il giorno 19/nov/2009, alle ore 23.39, Fabio Strada ha scritto:
>
>> ciao carlo.
>> mah, io l'M1 lo uso un po', ma non mi piace; gli unici suoni che mi
>> piacciono sono quello di vibrafono e poco altro. davvero, i suoni di
>> garageband mi sembrano anni luce migliori; hai sentito gli organi hammond?
>> ce n'è uno con la distorsione del leslie che è molto figo, veramente nulla a
>> che fare con quello dell'M1. i piani acustici ed elettrici tipo fender
>> rhodes sono parecchio buoni anche quelli; e poi ci sono diversi suoni di
>> synth molto carini.
>> certo, se tiriamo fuori strumenti analogici vintage tipo le roland degli
>> anni '80, allora è un altro discorso; quelle cose lì in garageband non ci
>> sono molto, o comunque non sono all'altezza dell'originale. io poi
>> ultimamente mi sono messo a smanettare un po' col vecchio korg MS20 di uno
>> dei membri del gruppo con cui suono; e devo dire che mi diverto un sacco. ma
>> in quanto a suoni digitali e campionati, a mio gusto quelli di garageband
>> non temono concorrenza, almeno rispetto a quello che ho sentito io.
>> ciao.
>> fabio
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carlo" <c.zanada1@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <macnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:26 AM
>> Subject: [macnv] Re: acquisto tastiera
>>
>>
>>> ciao fabio!
>>> ma no dai... non erano mica male i suoni del corg m1.
>>> cmq,
>>> io in garage band, non ne ho trovati moltissimi... però devo dire ke quelli
>>> ke ho sentito, non erano niente male!
>>> ad ogni modo, non appena riuscirò ad imparare ad usare garage band e avrò
>>> una skeda audio esterna,
>>> penso di poter registrare usando suoni delle mie 2 motif e di una
>>> nordstage... credo si scriva così...
>>> per quanto riguarda le batterie, mi farò prestare una roland da un amico!
>>> però ti dico ke in ogni caso, già i suoni della motif sono molto validi.
>>> buona giornata a tutti
>>> C
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabio Strada"
>>> <fabio.strada@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <macnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:30 AM
>>> Subject: [macnv] Re: acquisto tastiera
>>>
>>>
>>>> mah, a me non sembra che i suoni di garageband siano così pochi; certo non
>>>> saranno sterminati, ma ce ne sono. e soprattutto, quelli che ci sono sono
>>>> molto validi, più belli di quelli di certi synth classici ma vecchi, tipo
>>>> il korg m1.
>>>> ciao.
>>>> fabio
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carlo" <c.zanada1@xxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <macnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:03 PM
>>>> Subject: [macnv] Re: acquisto tastiera
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ciao angelo,
>>>>> se hai delle tastiere musicali, vedi roland o yamaha ecc ecc,
>>>>> credo ti convenga più munirti di una skeda audio, anke perkè i suoni
>>>>> interni
>>>>> di garage band, sono mooo'ooolto poki, almeno da quello ke mi è sembrato.
>>>>> saluti
>>>>> C
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANGELO CAIROLI"
>>>>> <angelo.cairoli57@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <macnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [macnv] acquisto tastiera
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Un saluto a tutti che usano la
>>>>>> tastiera muta con garageband.
>>>>>> Oggi vado a prendere la tastiera da collegare al mio imac.
>>>>>> Chi mi seguira come farla funzionare con garageband?
>>>>>> Vorrei fare le basi come in sala d'incisione.
>>>>>> Un saluto da Angelo per ora grazie.
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>>>>
>>>> www.nod32.it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Per cancellarti invia una mail all'indirizzo macnv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> con la parola unsubscribe
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>>> Per informazioni, consulenza o se hai bisogno di un corso per utilizzare il
>>> Mac contatta Blue Night
>>> Informatica (tel. 3296628961, www.bluenightinformatica.it).
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo.
>> Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com
>> Versione: 8.5.425 / Database dei virus: 270.14.73/2513 - Data di rilascio:
>> 11/19/09 07:51:00
>>
>> Per cancellarti invia una mail all'indirizzo macnv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx con
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>> Mac contatta Blue Night Informatica (tel. 3296628961,
>> www.bluenightinformatica.it).
>
> Per cancellarti invia una mail all'indirizzo macnv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx con
> la parola unsubscribe
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> Per consultare l'archivio dei messaggi //www.freelists.org/archive/macnv
> Per informazioni, consulenza o se hai bisogno di un corso per utilizzare il
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> Informatica (tel. 3296628961, www.bluenightinformatica.it).
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