Replyign to myself here. How did your friend's mac go when isntallign ml? My upgrade went fine. I saw him check in t th dapple store w twitter but nothing after that. If he can post a solution to what happened that would be cool. Take care and be blessed. On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I would have just rebooted from the DVD that you should have burned int he > first place and made a clean install. The last time I did an upgrade a > disaster like this happened. > > I'm thinking stuff might have physically happened with the hard drive or it's > about to happen. > > Keep us posted with the apple store appointment. as that's very odd. > On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> David, why would I quote: kill the messenger? I see nothing at all >> objectionable nor offensive in your mail. You're trying to help, and for >> that I thank you. >> >> Yes, we did try toggling vo off/on. I agree it's possible that we may have >> had a corrupted download, but if that is the case, why did the installer >> come up after downloading at all. If the checksums were not correct, >> wouldn't that have made the file crash, and not even open to start with? >> >> I dono, maybe I'm to expectant of things, but, yeah... >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: David Hilbert Poehlman >> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:39 AM >> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre! >> >> as I was listening to this, I waited to hear if toggling vo had been >> attempted while the mountain lion boot process was going on. I know you >> watched the load process, but it might have been interesting to know if vo >> might have run during the process. >> >> I don't fully understand the end of the process. it sounds like you got >> lion up and running from the external hd though. If so, I'd try going to >> recovery again and this time, run all the repair process in disc utility to >> see if anything is amiss. >> >> It is also possible that your copy of ml was damaged. >> >> I also wonder but it probably is if the system is capable of running ml. >> >> Please don't kill the messenger here. It's to early in the morning for that. >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Carlos Palomino <chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Honestly, CHris, that narrative was exhausting. >> >> And, this is only constructive criticism here, but why not take advantage of >> spell check? >> It reads poorly with VO, leading to our unwillingness to read further and >> thus, try to help you. >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Wendy <wendy.poth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> The only thing that is more awful than this book you just wrote is what >>> parts of it I understood. I got the sh** and the, blankity blank, the hell >>> was easy along with the woopse, for using the H*** word but after all that >>> I was lost. >>> I think at the end of the book all was well accept for your understanding >>> regarding how the book wrote itself? Have I got that? LOL. >>> That was really fun to read so thanks for taking the time to help your >>> friend F up and fix it. Are you all still friends? >>> Wendy >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:58 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>> <cgilland1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> OK, so, if this isn't totally bizarre, I don't know what is! >>>> >>>> My best friend, who like me, is an Avid primary Mac user decided to >>>> install Mountain Lion yesterday. So, he went to the app store with my >>>> help, and we bought and downloaded ML with his Apple ID. >>>> >>>> All went perfectly, from what we could see at first. I should add before >>>> we go any further that he has identically the same model macbook that I >>>> have... the mid 2010 stocked white 13 inch. This system is not a macbook >>>> pro. Beware. It is just the standard mid 2010 white 13 inch. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, he went through the install window, and the system restarted as >>>> expected to finish the installation. We hear the startup chime, and think >>>> all is well. We give it a few minutes, then hit command+F5. Sure enough, >>>> Voiceover came up with the Fred voice talking perfectly. We were quite >>>> satisfied so far. The progress indicator looked perfect, and was moving >>>> along just fine. Once it reached 100%, the system restarted as expected. >>>> I told him get ready, here comes ML! You're gonna love this. Huhho! >>>> Boy? oh, boy? was I? wrong! I should a said: Get ready! Here comes >>>> disaster! >>>> >>>> We hear the chime, and wait? and wait, and wait some more? and continue >>>> waiting? and more waiting? and, oh, by the freaking way, did I by chance >>>> mention, waited? LOL! So now, great as I am, not just at the mac, but in >>>> general with trouble shooting technology, I'm going, well? sh**! Um? >>>> Like, uh, hmm! what the! Heck? So here I am, trying to figure out, what >>>> in the God blessid heck happened, as I swear! we didn't do anything! out >>>> of the ordinary from anyone else. So, I had him shut down, and simply >>>> restart by holding his power button down. I know, bad? move, but what >>>> else were we gonna do!? He was hung! We kind a had no other choice of >>>> the matter. It was either do that, or sit here and watch the perty apple >>>> whilst singing: I haven't gotta clue, I don't know what to say, what the >>>> bird is wrong with it, all the do dah day. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! So, it >>>> reboots, we hear the chime, and again, we wait for all eternity. Nothing >>>> happens. Just that stupid little apple on the grey background that shows >>>> it's loading. You know, kind a the Darwin boot loader, I guess you'd call >>>> it, ish. No error messages that I know a, just the blasted thing not >>>> booting. It's totally weird, as it said! it installed correctly. >>>> >>>> So, the next thing I had 'em do, was to go into the hidden recovery >>>> partition by hitting command+R once he heard the startup chime. That >>>> worked absolutely flawlessly. He did hit the ML, not the Lion, Recovery >>>> Partition with no issue at all. So I'm going: Sh'sh'shewwwww! At least? >>>> that worked! So, only cause I didn't feel like having him fetch an >>>> ethernet cord from the back of his desktop windows machine out in the >>>> living room, which would a waken his folks up, plus is way back in a >>>> cavinet which, yeah, good luck trying to get that tower pulled out to get >>>> back there with all the cords in the way... LOL! So, at my disgression, >>>> I had him go up to the airport icon in the menu bar instead, and connect >>>> to his wifi network. That worked again, perfectly. Once connected, I had >>>> him try to reinstall from the recovery partition. That worked again >>>> perfectly. Then the system restarted, but here's the weird thing. Then, >>>> it went again through this stupid progression thing again. It's almost >>>> like it repeated the installation. it didn't sho anything different it >>>> was doing. The extra components it had to download did go through >>>> successfully, so it's not like it got hung there. Trust me. We both >>>> watched the screen with Voiceover very closely. >>>> >>>> Once this all was done, the system restarted a second time. just as we >>>> thought he would be good to go, we hear the chime, lots of hard disk >>>> activity for about maybe 10 minutes, then no activity, and just regular >>>> fan noise, nothing unusual sounding. It's not like his processor was over >>>> heating, as there wasn't any fan noise out of the ordinary. I'd think the >>>> EFI would a kicked in causing the fan to rev up to cool down had there >>>> been an issue. OK, yeah, there is the possibility he has a bad EFI, but >>>> it's real unlikely. Especially being what I'm gonna tell you all we did >>>> here in just a second that proves that not to be the case. >>>> >>>> So, you can imagine, by this point, I'm pulling my hair out trying to >>>> figure out what the hel., parden the language, is going on! >>>> >>>> Finally it dawned on me, maybe, just? maybe, it's the PRam having issues. >>>> Again, it's really doubtful, I completely agree with you all, but at this >>>> point, we really had nothing to lose. If you're wonderring, well D*** it, >>>> Chris? why didn't you think to have him go to disk utility and run a >>>> disk/permission verification and repair the disk/permissions, if needed. >>>> The only reason I didn't have him yet do that, is because not even a week >>>> ago literally! not even 7 days ago literally speaking, I myself had his >>>> macbook literally in my hand, as he came down here for 3 weeks to visit >>>> with me, and I ran a disk repair/permission repair at that point, as his >>>> finder kept saying busy busy busy almost constantly, and so we thought >>>> maybe something with the drive was screwed. Sure enough, it was, and I >>>> repaired, and according to the log, it was fixed 100% of the way. So, I >>>> didn't really think yet to have him try that, as why! He only just did it >>>> and fixed things not even a week before. So, it just kind a seemed thus, >>>> pointless. >>>> >>>> I did however finally have him do this, and nothing at all came back with >>>> errors. The drive appears to be completely 100% fine. >>>> >>>> Finally, in disk utility, I had him go to the macintosh HD volume, not? >>>> the actual disk, but just? the partition/volume. Then on the erase tab, I >>>> had him erase the disk entirely. I don't mean erase free space, I mean >>>> just the full erase. Once done, I had him quite disk utility. Obviously, >>>> we were doing this from the ML recovery partition. >>>> >>>> I had him do it this way, and not literally set the partition scheme from >>>> current back to 1 partition, as for one thing, I knew if we did that, it >>>> wouldn't a worked, as files were in use from the hidden recovery >>>> partition, which we were currently booted into, so even had! we done it, >>>> it wouldn't a worked. Plus, hypothetically, had! it been technically >>>> possible, I knew it would a been a real stupid move, as that! would a not >>>> only! wiped his macintosh hd volume with the supposedly installed OS, it >>>> also would a licked his hidden recovery partition clean, so, yeah, that >>>> was out of the question. >>>> >>>> What my goal ultimately was, was to have 'em erase the macintosh hd, and >>>> reformat it, just in case something really was going totally wackid. Once >>>> he did this, I had him try, without first restarting to reinstall. At >>>> this point, he did get the option to not only reinstall, but to install a >>>> new copy, which we didn't see before. He clicked it, but then the install >>>> button was dimmed. I had him reclick the new copy just in case we'd some >>>> how toggled that option off. Still, no good. >>>> >>>> I wondered if it had somehow again decided to be a thing, so I had him >>>> restart. Worst? choice, I ever? could a haddem make! Once that happened, >>>> we hear the chime, he holds command+R down, and no? dice! It didn't even >>>> let 'em go into recovery any longer! I'm going, what the blue flying >>>> blankity blank! I didn't even touch! his hidden partition! I couldn't! >>>> it's so hidden, even had I wanted to! I couldn't. I didn't have him wipe >>>> the partition scheme, and again, even had I, it wouldn't a worked since >>>> that partition was mounted, as was in use running the recovery, to start >>>> with. >>>> >>>> So, I had him plug his external Seagate go flex USB 500gb drive in which >>>> has a Super Dooper backup on it of his Lion install which was quite >>>> recent. I had him boot, while holding down the option key, to see if we >>>> could boot to it. No good. >>>> >>>> Finally, right as he said he was going to take the b***ard into the Apple >>>> Store in his area, I told him to try in despiration one? last thing. I >>>> had him leave the drive plugged in, and reboot, this time, without! >>>> holding down the option key. Guess what folks!? Boom! Drive wirreled >>>> up, we waited about a minute or two, and boom! Voiceover came right the >>>> heck up talking with his Lion bootted Super Doop drive from the Go Flex >>>> drive. I had him doop it back over to the macintosh hd. >>>> >>>> That too, worked perfectly. I had him then shut down, then remove, only! >>>> then, the go flex drive from the USB port, then restart. >>>> >>>> Guess what? Again: Boom! it booted like gold! Flawlessly! >>>> >>>> So, what in the cotton blessed heavens gives here! I am beside myself! >>>> This is totally! killing me! I hardly ever stump at this kind a thing, >>>> but I'm totally cluelessly baffled! When we called Apple today, he >>>> spoke to a senior advisor, who was pretty well just, if not more, as >>>> stumped as I am! >>>> >>>> He set up a mac genious appointment at 10 tomorrow Arizona time to have >>>> them look at the thing and try to install it themselves, but I'd still! >>>> love to know if you all know what in the heck! caused this! >>>> >>>> This is totally perplexing the heck outta me! >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>> >>>> >>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>> their list subscription is: >>>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>> >>>> The list archive is located at >>>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>> >>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>> >>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> ************ >> >> >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >> >> >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >> their list subscription is: >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >> >> The list archive is located at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >> >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >> >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> -- >> Jonnie Appleseed >> With His >> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s >> touching the internet >> Reducing Technology's disabilities >> One Byte At a time >