[mac4theblind] Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!
- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <cgilland1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:56:55 -0400
David, why would I quote: kill the messenger? I see nothing at all
objectionable nor offensive in your mail. You're trying to help, and for that
I thank you.
Yes, we did try toggling vo off/on. I agree it's possible that we may have had
a corrupted download, but if that is the case, why did the installer come up
after downloading at all. If the checksums were not correct, wouldn't that
have made the file crash, and not even open to start with?
I dono, maybe I'm to expectant of things, but, yeah...
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Hilbert Poehlman
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:39 AM
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!
as I was listening to this, I waited to hear if toggling vo had been
attempted while the mountain lion boot process was going on. I know you
watched the load process, but it might have been interesting to know if vo
might have run during the process.
I don't fully understand the end of the process. it sounds like you got lion
up and running from the external hd though. If so, I'd try going to recovery
again and this time, run all the repair process in disc utility to see if
anything is amiss.
It is also possible that your copy of ml was damaged.
I also wonder but it probably is if the system is capable of running ml.
Please don't kill the messenger here. It's to early in the morning for that.
On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Carlos Palomino <chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Honestly, CHris, that narrative was exhausting.
And, this is only constructive criticism here, but why not take advantage of
spell check?
It reads poorly with VO, leading to our unwillingness to read further and
thus, try to help you.
On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Wendy <wendy.poth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The only thing that is more awful than this book you just wrote is what
parts of it I understood. I got the sh** and the, blankity blank, the hell was
easy along with the woopse, for using the H*** word but after all that I was
lost.
I think at the end of the book all was well accept for your understanding
regarding how the book wrote itself? Have I got that? LOL.
That was really fun to read so thanks for taking the time to help your
friend F up and fix it. Are you all still friends?
Wendy
On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:58 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
<cgilland1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK, so, if this isn't totally bizarre, I don't know what is!
My best friend, who like me, is an Avid primary Mac user decided to
install Mountain Lion yesterday. So, he went to the app store with my help,
and we bought and downloaded ML with his Apple ID.
All went perfectly, from what we could see at first. I should add before
we go any further that he has identically the same model macbook that I have...
the mid 2010 stocked white 13 inch. This system is not a macbook pro. Beware.
It is just the standard mid 2010 white 13 inch.
Anyhow, he went through the install window, and the system restarted as
expected to finish the installation. We hear the startup chime, and think all
is well. We give it a few minutes, then hit command+F5. Sure enough,
Voiceover came up with the Fred voice talking perfectly. We were quite
satisfied so far. The progress indicator looked perfect, and was moving along
just fine. Once it reached 100%, the system restarted as expected. I told him
get ready, here comes ML! You're gonna love this. Huhho! Boy? oh, boy? was
I? wrong! I should a said: Get ready! Here comes disaster!
We hear the chime, and wait? and wait, and wait some more? and continue
waiting? and more waiting? and, oh, by the freaking way, did I by chance
mention, waited? LOL! So now, great as I am, not just at the mac, but in
general with trouble shooting technology, I'm going, well? sh**! Um? Like,
uh, hmm! what the! Heck? So here I am, trying to figure out, what in the God
blessid heck happened, as I swear! we didn't do anything! out of the ordinary
from anyone else. So, I had him shut down, and simply restart by holding his
power button down. I know, bad? move, but what else were we gonna do!? He was
hung! We kind a had no other choice of the matter. It was either do that, or
sit here and watch the perty apple whilst singing: I haven't gotta clue, I
don't know what to say, what the bird is wrong with it, all the do dah day.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! So, it reboots, we hear the chime, and again, we wait for all
eternity. Nothing happens. Just that stupid little apple on the grey
background that shows it's loading. You know, kind a the Darwin boot loader, I
guess you'd call it, ish. No error messages that I know a, just the blasted
thing not booting. It's totally weird, as it said! it installed correctly.
So, the next thing I had 'em do, was to go into the hidden recovery
partition by hitting command+R once he heard the startup chime. That worked
absolutely flawlessly. He did hit the ML, not the Lion, Recovery Partition
with no issue at all. So I'm going: Sh'sh'shewwwww! At least? that worked!
So, only cause I didn't feel like having him fetch an ethernet cord from the
back of his desktop windows machine out in the living room, which would a waken
his folks up, plus is way back in a cavinet which, yeah, good luck trying to
get that tower pulled out to get back there with all the cords in the way...
LOL! So, at my disgression, I had him go up to the airport icon in the menu
bar instead, and connect to his wifi network. That worked again, perfectly.
Once connected, I had him try to reinstall from the recovery partition. That
worked again perfectly. Then the system restarted, but here's the weird thing.
Then, it went again through this stupid progression thing again. It's almost
like it repeated the installation. it didn't sho anything different it was
doing. The extra components it had to download did go through successfully, so
it's not like it got hung there. Trust me. We both watched the screen with
Voiceover very closely.
Once this all was done, the system restarted a second time. just as we
thought he would be good to go, we hear the chime, lots of hard disk activity
for about maybe 10 minutes, then no activity, and just regular fan noise,
nothing unusual sounding. It's not like his processor was over heating, as
there wasn't any fan noise out of the ordinary. I'd think the EFI would a
kicked in causing the fan to rev up to cool down had there been an issue. OK,
yeah, there is the possibility he has a bad EFI, but it's real unlikely.
Especially being what I'm gonna tell you all we did here in just a second that
proves that not to be the case.
So, you can imagine, by this point, I'm pulling my hair out trying to
figure out what the hel., parden the language, is going on!
Finally it dawned on me, maybe, just? maybe, it's the PRam having issues.
Again, it's really doubtful, I completely agree with you all, but at this
point, we really had nothing to lose. If you're wonderring, well D*** it,
Chris? why didn't you think to have him go to disk utility and run a
disk/permission verification and repair the disk/permissions, if needed. The
only reason I didn't have him yet do that, is because not even a week ago
literally! not even 7 days ago literally speaking, I myself had his macbook
literally in my hand, as he came down here for 3 weeks to visit with me, and I
ran a disk repair/permission repair at that point, as his finder kept saying
busy busy busy almost constantly, and so we thought maybe something with the
drive was screwed. Sure enough, it was, and I repaired, and according to the
log, it was fixed 100% of the way. So, I didn't really think yet to have him
try that, as why! He only just did it and fixed things not even a week before.
So, it just kind a seemed thus, pointless.
I did however finally have him do this, and nothing at all came back with
errors. The drive appears to be completely 100% fine.
Finally, in disk utility, I had him go to the macintosh HD volume, not?
the actual disk, but just? the partition/volume. Then on the erase tab, I had
him erase the disk entirely. I don't mean erase free space, I mean just the
full erase. Once done, I had him quite disk utility. Obviously, we were doing
this from the ML recovery partition.
I had him do it this way, and not literally set the partition scheme from
current back to 1 partition, as for one thing, I knew if we did that, it
wouldn't a worked, as files were in use from the hidden recovery partition,
which we were currently booted into, so even had! we done it, it wouldn't a
worked. Plus, hypothetically, had! it been technically possible, I knew it
would a been a real stupid move, as that! would a not only! wiped his macintosh
hd volume with the supposedly installed OS, it also would a licked his hidden
recovery partition clean, so, yeah, that was out of the question.
What my goal ultimately was, was to have 'em erase the macintosh hd, and
reformat it, just in case something really was going totally wackid. Once he
did this, I had him try, without first restarting to reinstall. At this point,
he did get the option to not only reinstall, but to install a new copy, which
we didn't see before. He clicked it, but then the install button was dimmed.
I had him reclick the new copy just in case we'd some how toggled that option
off. Still, no good.
I wondered if it had somehow again decided to be a thing, so I had him
restart. Worst? choice, I ever? could a haddem make! Once that happened, we
hear the chime, he holds command+R down, and no? dice! It didn't even let 'em
go into recovery any longer! I'm going, what the blue flying blankity blank!
I didn't even touch! his hidden partition! I couldn't! it's so hidden, even
had I wanted to! I couldn't. I didn't have him wipe the partition scheme,
and again, even had I, it wouldn't a worked since that partition was mounted,
as was in use running the recovery, to start with.
So, I had him plug his external Seagate go flex USB 500gb drive in which
has a Super Dooper backup on it of his Lion install which was quite recent. I
had him boot, while holding down the option key, to see if we could boot to it.
No good.
Finally, right as he said he was going to take the b***ard into the Apple
Store in his area, I told him to try in despiration one? last thing. I had him
leave the drive plugged in, and reboot, this time, without! holding down the
option key. Guess what folks!? Boom! Drive wirreled up, we waited about a
minute or two, and boom! Voiceover came right the heck up talking with his Lion
bootted Super Doop drive from the Go Flex drive. I had him doop it back over
to the macintosh hd.
That too, worked perfectly. I had him then shut down, then remove, only!
then, the go flex drive from the USB port, then restart.
Guess what? Again: Boom! it booted like gold! Flawlessly!
So, what in the cotton blessed heavens gives here! I am beside myself!
This is totally! killing me! I hardly ever stump at this kind a thing, but I'm
totally cluelessly baffled! When we called Apple today, he spoke to a senior
advisor, who was pretty well just, if not more, as stumped as I am!
He set up a mac genious appointment at 10 tomorrow Arizona time to have
them look at the thing and try to install it themselves, but I'd still! love to
know if you all know what in the heck! caused this!
This is totally perplexing the heck outta me!
Chris.
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