Thanks, John. I'm leaning toward the Macbook Pro, so knowing there are keyboard options is good. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Intro and first question Hi Jean, No, the laptops, the Mac Book Pro and Mac Book Air, do not come with a numpad. You'd need to purchase an extended USB or Bluetooth keyboard. Either that or an external numpad, which I bought. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jean Menzies wrote: > Hello John, > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. After listening to Mike's presentation > of > the numpad commander, I was also thinking that a numpad would be a good > thing. Thanks for your opinion on that. Am I right in thinking that there > is > no numpad on any of the Macbooks, especially the Macbook pro? I'm assuming > the laptops don't have a numpad per se. > > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Panarese" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:34 AM > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Intro and first question > > > Hi Jean, > Welcome to the list. I'm sure some folks will share their > observations, > but I can say, from experience, that a numeric pad is not necessarily a > requirement, but it is very useful. In particular, when you become > comfortable with the Mac, the NumPad commander is a very nice feature that > will enable you to map more complex VoiceOver keyboard commands to numeric > pad keys. For example, I have done so with a lot of web navigation > keyboard > commands, such as opening the web item rotor and moving to web spots. > However, this is something you will have to decide on your own, but I do > recommend it. > > Lion was released in July of this year. There is some debate over > whether or not Siri will be included in the Mac OS at some point. I > personally think they will, as it makes sense. Nevertheless, that is all > speculation at this stage. > > In any event, please feel free to ask questions and pick our brains. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Jean Menzies wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I am just beginning my adventure into the Apple world, and will be >> getting >> an iPhone later this month. I have also decided to switch to a Mac >> sometime next year, as our PC needs replacing and, well, my >> investigations >> tell me that the Mac world is a great place. >> >> A first question as I am trying to get oriented to this new environment. >> Can people share their observations as to the various Mac versions? >> Having >> always used a numberpad, I am hesitant to go to a Macbook without one. >> But >> I also know not to compare Jaws to VO or Windows to the Mac. Just >> wondering about the ease of use between the Macbooks and the full >> keyboard >> Apple PCs. >> >> And, I'm just curious. No one knows, but do you think they might >> introduce >> Siri and the Dictate feature now on the iOS5 4s iPhone into the operating >> system for the Mac? When did the Lion operating system come out? >> >> And a final note of thanks so far. Thanks to John. I found the >> Mac4theblind website and it is a wonderful resourse. Thanks to Bubba, who >> has shared many links for valuable resources. And, Mike Arrigo, if you're >> on this list, I have listened to all of your Mac podcasts on >> BlindCoolTech. What a trip, and thanks for doing those. It's amazing to >> see the progress. Even by the 2nd or 3rd one, I knew that the Mac was a >> good product. >> >> Looking forward to my Apple plunge. >> >> Jean >> >> On the other hand, you have different fingers >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6691 (20111207) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes > to > their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 6691 (20111207) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6692 (20111207) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes > to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. 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