[lit-ideas] Re: speranza's affections

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 07:32:16 +0100

Interestingly, the origin of the surname Grice has never been discussed :)

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Speranza is affected by severe Durchfall. At any particular time, no
> matter what the question is speranza will look up on the "Wikipedia" some
> utterly irrelevantfact, the shoelaces of Kripke, the neck size of Ayer and
> reply with devotedly nonsensical fake knowledge, of the fomr so and so was
> born in location xxx and this is know to the city hall register of xxx
>
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> In a message dated 3/13/2015 1:25:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> Perhaps we can try something like  this: "First we take a vague or
> ambiguous statement. Then we imagine a  context in which it is believed to
> be true but it comes out false in the sense  in which it was ostensibly
> intended in that imaginary context. Next, we imagine  another context which
> has nothing whatsoever to do with what was ostensibly  intended but in
> which the same statement can be read as true. For effect, we add  one or
> two improbable turns to the story." I think that would be the general
> recipee for producing examples of "justified true belief that is not
> knowledge,"  although variations can be tried.
>
> Indeed. Gettier's full name is Edmund L. Gettier, III, and he is from
> Baltimore. As someone may deduce to know, the Gettiers were and  are
> well-known in Baltimore.
>
> The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy has an entry, "The analysis of
> knowledge", with a section on Gettier. It reads, inter alia:
>
> "The other [way out to Gettier's problem] is to amend the Justified True
> Belief analysis of knowledge with a suitable FOURTH condition, a condition
> that succeeds in preventing justified true belief from being “gettiered.”"
>
> On the other hand, Dennett finds 'gettier' a comparative, and describes
> 'getty', adj.
>
> "Describing a counterexample that obtains its conclusion."
>
> "Your first rule raises some interesting questions, but your second is
> gettier."
>
> The meaning of the surname Gettier is not known.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Speranza
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