Hi, Stan, Thanks for the reasoned thoughtfulness! I like John Edwards, too, and he was doing great here in Missouri (until the debate...strange how I think just the act of sitting made it more difficult for him to respond to Cheney...and he said nothing new in response and seemed to 'canned'. That was odd compared to what I had heard from him in the past.) I think John Kerry would have a decent chance if he was somehow able to address the issue of the Swift Boat Vets in a different way. (I would have handled it much more agressively--I looked up some of what John Kerry did in regards to keeping the MIA/POW in the forefront of Congress in those early years, etc. Would have paid to reprint the Chicago Tribune editorial in every single major and not-so-major paper and had it read aloud, even, on radio...but that is me <g> and I knew that those ads from that group was what tipped people on the fence over...for patriotism, honor and respect is so so important. But, he had all those attributes--but they were not showcased. Like it or not, we live in a world which has to have such showcased ... though maybe as people crash and burn (or are helpless to help those they love), we will as a People, begin to look at substance again. Maybe it's a dream, though...<wry look> I think the Republicans are going to have a huge fight eventually--for while most of the moderates all act like they have had their arms twisted behind them so they are rolling over even on legislation(s) that they proposed and advocated for (I think of Missouri's own Sen Bond...), they are not willing to completely change parties. (yet) The pro-life issue IS an important one, but not as important as some of the others. I still want to put up billboards that say "Life begins with the heartbeat." (thus, embryonic stem cell research is 'okay', most abortions are 'okay', etc.) Just because it would be using the tactics that were done in the what? late 70s-early 80s? There are alot of people in Missouri who are seeing that ultra-conservative point of view go a bit too far with the legislation dealing with stem cell research, etc. that was introduced. The economic impact on our state would be horrific--there are a number of bio-tech and research firms which were going to halt their next phases of development/investment...and all of a sudden they got cranky. (It helped that Jack Danforth came back to town, so to speak, as he is extremely moderate and very well respected...and holds alot of clout in terms of $$ and connections...) A moderate who is able to speak the language of faith will do 'okay'. I don't know how John Edwards would do, now. I think alot of people like John Kerry better now, too <g> Well, the alternative which we have now is not very productive in terms of making their everyday life better, so maybe that is not saying much <g>. Anyway, better get on with my day. Thanks for your thoughts (they helped diffuse my emotions!) Marlena in Missouri ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html