[lit-ideas] Re: Vedr: Three arguments against quantitative social "science" as science

  • From: "Walter C. Okshevsky" <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Eric <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:05:44 -0230

With reference to your question (and eschewing all political commentary), I
would say, yes, the naturalistic fallacy (Hume's version) is indeed a logical
fallacy. An argument with all (only) empirical premises cannot validly conclude
with a moral or any value judgement.  That's what I believe and I think you
ought to agree. 

On his dacha,

Walter O


Quoting Eric  <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:

> >> Compare and contrast: many believe that much of the turmoil in the near
> east is caused (con-caused) by the very existence of the state of Israel.
> Come onto stage the "humean" theorist who tells me that there is no "proof"
> of that.
> 
> 
> 
> It is impossible to prove "beliefs" (values) by facts, is it not? 
> 
> One cannot demonstrate or prove values by facts--z.b., to show those who
> question the worth of Israel's existence are fools--but one CAN report the
> statistical results of opinion polls, and use those results to "update a web
> of beliefs" (Quine).  
> 
> Eric
> 
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