[lit-ideas] Re: Vedr: Three arguments against quantitative social "science" as science
- From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 06:25:27 +0000
Dear Dr. Jost, the burden is on you. I have no idea of the why or indeed
whether Pythagora's theorem is a "noumena." Indeed I have a very hard time in
understanding what such an arcane wording entails. You may want to ask how does
x knows that P [p= the theorem aforementioned] is a noumena.
I myself being very untrained in the vagaries of such claims as the "faith" und
so weiter, have no idea.
If you care to explain, I'd be grateful.
In particular :noumena = ??
If a subject knows or states the subject knows that alpha is noumena, what does
the subject know?
When the subject knows that p is noumena, assuming knowledge entails true
content, what are the truth conditions of "p is noumena"?
Best
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Vedr: Three arguments against quantitative social
"science" as science
>> neither the photons nor anyone else could care less about my
>> imagination
That may well be. However to speak of something without reference to empiricism
(initial instant of Big Bang, God, Captain Ahab, quarks, etc.) is to claim
direct knowledge of a noumena, which is type of faith or imaginative leap.
While I agree that the natural world exists without reference to our species,
it's equally clear that when a member of our species makes truth claims about
the world, that human being has created an imaginative mental construct, so as
to share it with another human and claim its truth.
In other words, Pythagoras's theorem may be true independent of people, true
before it was named, true before humans, eternally true, but the naming of it,
and its transmission from generation to generation via an imagined planar
space, is an act of imagination and faith.
Eric
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