Feel free to assess away. The shift from "all" to "mostly" evades the Cretan Liar trap in which you neatly caught me. The question about multi-valued logics is serious. The washing machine is a demonstration that fuzzy logic not only exists but also has practical applications. That it appealed because laundry is often described as "white as snow" is undeniable. Following your suggestion, I am cc-ing this reply to the list. Do carry on. Cheers, John On Dec 4, 2007 4:04 AM, <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote: > Most of your post below I either fail to understand or fail to see the > relevance > to the matters we're discussing. Why not offer it up at our pub for > discursive > assessment? > > Cheers, Walter > > > > > Quoting John McCreery < john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > So, change my statement to "mostly flawed or incomplete," allowing > exclusion > > of logical or mathematical theorems, whose completeness depends on our > > assumptions, which we treat as primitives and inference rules we treat > as > > givens. Then, a question for those who know more than I do: Why, if PNC > is > > almighty, do logicians play with three-valued or even n-valued (where n > can > > be infinite) logics? > > Perhaps I am being muddled by the advertising, but the fuzzy-logic > processor > > in our already aged Toshiba washing machine still appears to produce a > fine > > load of laundry. Snow may or may not be white. The laundry looks pretty > > good. > > > > > > -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/