In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:55:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, karltrogge@xxxxxxxx writes: Fallacious reasoning? Like 'improper appeal to authority', perhaps? No. P. A. Stone argued: All women are women But only some women are moms ------ Therefore, there are more women than moms Mutatis mutandis for 'water'. Basically, Stone's reasoning is that 'water' is more abundant than ice and vapour. And so it's a supraset. This is fallacious: As much as ANY WOMAN (to use Aristotle's term) is potentially able to transform into a mother ditto it's ridiculous to suppose that there's more water than ice and vapour. Cheers, J. L. Speranza Buenos Aires, Argentina **************Popular laptop deals plus free shipping! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221917659x1201411421/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.media plex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D2) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html