[lit-ideas] Re: The Philosophy of As If

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:47:37 EDT

In a message dated 3/11/2009 8:04:05 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time, 
rpaul@xxxxxxxx writes:
> ...'Als Ob' never caught  on with
> American teenagers as a way of expressing the unlikeliness of  one's 
> doing or believing a certain thing.
Neither did 'Als  ob!'

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I take that as ironic and pointing at the ubiquitousness of 'like' in  Valley 
Girl speech?
 
 
I am like, in love with, like, him.
 
literally
 
I am as If I am in love with as if him.
 
The problem with the 'as if' is that it _is_ conditional in  form:
 
 
"I'll marry him as if he he were rich"
 
It's totally different from:
 
"I WOULD marry if he were rich"
 
The conditional in 'als ob' is _otiose_.
 
"I'll eat the margarine as if it were butter"
 
A good margarine, they say, tastes as if butter.
 
In conditional terms. The 'als ob' is counterfactual:
 
margarine is NOT butter.
 
Yet
 
( I'll pretend margarine = butter )
 
and
 
I'll eat margarine 
 
The metaphysical problem is that margarine is _not_ butter and it is  
_impossible_ to taste it as if it butter.
 
Cheers,
 
J. L Speranza
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
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