[lit-ideas] Re: TLP1: Elements and their relations in giving the sense of 'p'

  • From: Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:12:31 +0700

Robert Paul quotes:

"'... A key dispute is whether, as Phil Enns claimed [affair], W's TLP
offers the view that the sense of a proposition is determined only by
the relations between the elements of the proposition; or whether, as
I maintain(ed), the sense of 'p' also depends on the character or
content of the elements.'"

and then comments:

"If this is what Phil claimed, then he was mistaken in claiming it.
The sense of a proposition is, roughly, what would be the case if it
were true. (False sentence have a sense; their falsity could not be
determined otherwise.)"


I did not make the claim that is ascribed to me above.

For example, on 20 December, I wrote:

"For Wittgenstein in the TLP, the sense of a picture lies in the
states of affairs, that is the relations between things, that are
represented."

I stand by what I wrote earlier and am willing to defend what I, in fact, wrote.


Sincerely,

Phil Enns
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