In a message dated 4/24/2009 5:27:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: To me it's a word like "Frogs," to be used only when it's clear you mean no harm. David Ritchie, loving the frogs in --- Unless you do mean harm. There was a discussion in a philosophy forum recenty, and one African American philosopher residing in Germany wrote a letter to a newspaper saying, "You may not call me African-American" "You may not call me a 'woman philosopher'" etc. -- it's a long letter and available online. Her name is Piper. In any case, it struck me that while she has obviously a right not be wanted to be called this or that, people _may_, in the epistemic sense. And it's not always easy to say that 'pejoration' is involved. I think labels like those work best when self-used. Thus, a pejorative term is not pejorative when used by someone to self-label. But people will bring in the issue of 'internalised self-loathing'. Oddly, Rupert Everett, who has done a terrible thing to his face, is said online to have 'some obvious self-loathing issues' to have done what he did (He's playing "Blithe Spirit" on Broadway's Shubert Theatre, along with 'legenday' Angela Lounsbury). Cheers, JL **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html