My understanding is that "blue" is the colour that the object is not -- the colour reflected back to the eye. Want to factor that in? Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj:[lit-ideas] Re: Sayable simples Date:5/17/2004 7:20:50 AM Central Daylight Time From:donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx To:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent on: RH in particular may be interested to comment on a suggestion I read elsewhere that what P&M translate as "Roughly speaking: objects are colourless" [which might suggest there is a contrasting sense in which they have colour] is more properly translated as 'As an aside/By the by/Incidentally: objects are colorless". In this case it would seem that something that is blue is not an object, at least according to Wittgenstein. How does anyone like dem apples [which according to this interpretation are not simples either] Donal ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html