1. I would appreciate a quote from any Christian fundamentalist, who leads a national organization, who claims that "falsehoods are not only acceptable, they are a necessity". What I have found is that Christian fundamentalists will be quite upfront about their goals since a) faithfulness takes the narrow road and therefore is identified, in part, by persecution and lack of popular support, and b)the truth prevails and so faithfulness requires being as truthful as possible. I find the claim of using falsehoods remarkably ironic given the well-deserved reputation of Christian fundamentalists for being loud and noisy when it comes to their beliefs. It seems to me that one reason why no Christian fundamentalist will ever be a president is their unwillingness to compromise their beliefs and their being quite open regarding what they do believe. 2. If one believes that particular disagreements are not only moral in nature but fundamental, then I don't see the reference to 'evil' as surprising. For similar sentiments, consider those on this list who cast their opponents under the cloak of 'bloodthirsty', 'racists', etc. Surely those terms would fall under the category of 'evil', so, again, irony abounds. 3. Since fundamentalists believe that disagreements are moral and fundamental, character is necessarily an issue. Again, the personal attacks on Lawrence and Eric on this list, and their justification on the grounds of their holding evil beliefs, are of a kind with what one finds amongst the Fox News crowd when the Clintons are mentioned. One rarely finds complaints regarding the character assassination of one's opponent, instead usually finding this described as 'telling the truth'. See here comments on this list regarding the character of Dubya. 4. Simon wrote: "The creation of the appearance of overwhelming power and brutality is necessary in order to destroy the will of opponents to launch opposition of any kind." I don't know to what this refers. I will assume that this refers to the matters covered by 2. and 3. so that I don't need to add anything more. It seems to me that in popular discourse, the terms 'fundamentalist' and 'Christian fundamentalist' have become, like the term 'fascist', largely meaningless and serve a purely negative role. This is unfortunate since these terms have, in particular circles, significant meaning that might serve to inform popular discourse. Sincerely, Phil Enns ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html