[lit-ideas] Re: Question

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:07:30 -0400

I heard a discussion on Qutb.  Apparently one of the things that turned him off 
to America is when he was in Colorado (1940's I think), he and his Egyptian 
friends went to a movie theatre and were denied admission because the movie 
attendants thought they were black Americans.  He told them they were Egyptian 
and they were let in.  That experience of racism was one of the things that 
made him think the U.S. was corrupt.  

It makes one wonder about the term "Islamofascism" since there are so many 
sects and only tiny minorities even among the fundamentalists are militant.  
Painting everyone with one brush serves no purpose beyond recruiting for the 
militants.    



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 9/7/2006 2:02:11 AM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Question


No, the Wahhabis are not the most militant Islamic Group.  They are a 
Fundamentalist Group.  There is a difference between being Fundamentalist and 
being Militant.  Read Sandra Mackey?s Saudis, Inside the Desert Kingdom.  The 
Wahhabs send out minders to make sure women are properly behaved.  They 
comprise a moral police.  They oppose infidels but Saudi Arabia can?t function 
with out them.  They are so rich in Saudi Arabia that they can?t bring 
themselves to engage in menial labor so they import infidels.  Wahhab minders 
don?t like this, but the government won?t permit them to be too harsh to them, 
unless they violate a Sharia law, which many of them have.  The Fundamentalists 
take a strict literal (according to their lights) view of the Sharia.  

It does seem, however, that those raised in Fundamentalism whether Deobandi, 
Salaf, or Wahhab are especially susceptible to the teachings of Sayyid Qutb.  
The first of the Militant Islamic organizations that affects modern Militant 
Islam is the Muslim Brothers organization founded in Egypt.  Al Banna was the 
founder and Sayyid Qutb was a member.  Sayyid Qutb?s brother Mohammad taught 
Osama bin Laden at a university Osama attended.  

The Wahhabs in Saudi Arabia have had an agreement with the ruling family.  They 
don?t interfere with the ruling family and the ruling family doesn?t interfere 
with them.  This live and let live agreement was extended to terrorists but not 
out in the open.  However, fundamentalists don?t like being hypocritical about 
their beliefs and they do condemn the ruling family?s behavior so there have 
been attacks in Saudi Arabia by militants.   The ruling family in return has 
cracked down on them.  These militants embrace Wahhab-type fundamentalism 
coupled with the Jihadist teachings of Sayyid Qutb.

Lawrence




From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:48 PM
To: lit-ideas
Subject: [lit-ideas] Question

"The majority of Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims predominantly adhering to the 
strict interpretation of Islam taught by the Salafi or Wahhabi school that is 
the official state religion."

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2002/14012.htm

Lawrence, the Wahhabis (OBL's religion) are the most militant Islamic group.  
Wahhabism is also the official state religion of Saudi Arabia, a regime that we 
support.  How are these two things reconciled?  

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