On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:31 AM, John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> >> >> We are tottering it seems on the large issue of realism/anti-realism in >> the theory of knowledge and, in particular, of mathematical knowledge. > > > Indeed. So perhaps it might be worthwhile to look a bit more carefully at > what we are talking about. According to a Wiki article that looks pretty > good > > In a private message, it was suggested to me that instead of relying on Wiki, I Google "Benacerraf" I did, and while this is another reference to Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Benacerraf), it sounds pretty interesting. *Paul Benacerraf* is a philosopher of mathematics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics> who has been teaching at Princeton University<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University> since he joined the faculty in 1960. He was appointed Stuart Professor of Philosophy in 1974, and recently retired as the *James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor of Philosophy.* Born inParis<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris>, his parents were Sephardic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardic> Jews<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> from Morocco <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco>. His brother is the Nobel Prize <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize>-winning immunologist Baruj Benacerraf <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruj_Benacerraf>. Benacerraf is perhaps best known for his two papers *What Numbers Could Not Be* (1965) and *Mathematical Truth* (1973), and for his highly successful anthology on the philosophy of mathematics, co-edited with Hilary Putnam<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Putnam> . In *What Numbers Could Not Be*, he argues against a Platonist<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics#Platonism> view of mathematics, and for structuralism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structuralism#Structuralism_in_the_philosophy_of_mathematics>, on the ground that what is important about numbers is the abstract structures they represent rather than the objects that number words ostensibly refer to. In particular, this argument is based on the point that Zermelo <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zermelo> and von Neumann<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann> give distinct, and completely adequate, identifications of natural numbers with sets. In *Mathematical Truth*, he argues that no interpretation of mathematics (available at that time) offers a satisfactory package of epistemology and semantics; it is possible to explain mathematical truth in a way that is consistent with our syntactico-semantical treatment of truth in non-mathematical language, and it is possible to explain our knowledge of mathematics in terms consistent with a causal account of epistemology, but it is in general not possible to accomplish both of these objectives simultaneously. He argues for this on the grounds that an adequate account of truth in mathematics implies the existence of abstract mathematical objects, but that such objects are epistemologically inaccessible because they are causally inert and beyond the reach of sense perception. On the other hand, an adequate epistemology of mathematics, say one that ties truth-conditions to proof in some way, precludes understanding how and why the truth-conditions have any bearing on truth. John -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/