Robert Paul wrote: "I think that the principle of charity should be applied to ... " I probably have not been as charitable as I should be. So let me try again: If 'All men are mortal' means nothing more than 'every man will someday die' then the sentence strikes me as being fundamental for some parts of the actuarial sciences, ergo it has at least one context where it is scientific. Sincerely, Phil Enns Yogyakarta, Indonesia ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html