I've plugged my name in a couple times into Google just for curiosity. For some bizarre reason beyond me, a few of my lit-id posts have shown up on Google. Nothing like all -- just a dozen or so. I've never understand why those and not others ... Julie Krueger On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > There aren't any Scientologists here, really, around 2,000 in the whole > UK. And they aren't tax-exempt here. But it seems you can't keep them down, > I've just found a 2008 story about a teenager being charged under the Public > Order Act for calling them a cult, charged by this force (City, not Met) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The City of London police came under fire two years ago when it > emerged that more than 20 officers, ranging from constable to chief > superintendent, had accepted gifts worth thousands of pounds from the > Church of Scientology.The City of London Chief Superintendent, > Kevin Hurley, praised Scientology for "raising the spiritual wealth of > society" during the opening > of its headquarters in 2006. Last > year a video praising Scientology emerged featuring Ken Stewart, > another of the City of London's chief superintendents, although he is > not a member of the group. > <<<<<<<<<<<< > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/20/1 > > (The Crown Prosecution Service made them drop the case.) > > Judy Evans, Cardiff > > > > > --- On Fri, 19/8/11, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, 19 August, 2011, 2:21 > > Robert, Thanks, Bend sounds nice. I received two other recommendations, > Payson Arizona and some place in Pennsylvania. Susan is open to the idea of > a move, but the first place we checked, Big Bear, California, didn’t turn up > any suitable houses. Also, the depressed housing market in California may > mean this would not be a good time to move. The ones closest to being > suitable were a lot more expensive than the one we live in. Ideally it > should be the other way around. A friend predicted that the Public > Relations officer, Muriel Dufresne would not call me, that the security > guard may not even have told her about me, and that this was a ploy that the > guards are taught to discourage questionable passersby. If so it worked. I > felt discouraged. I like to walk around looking for trees and birds, not > security guards. As to Julie’s suggestion that perhaps they wanted to use > some of my photos, I don’t think there > is much chance of that. The second time Sal came up to question me I > considered that possibility and asked if it would be possible to go into the > Golden Era Productions facility some time to take photos. He very > vehemently (while shaking his head rapidly from side to side) told me that > would never ever be possible. The Area 51 comments may not be far off. I > did a very brief check on Google and discovered that Golden Era Productions > has had some serious problems, some involving law suits. A group of > protestors back in 2008 claimed Scientologists were holding members > prisoner, and the spiked fences (which they posted pictures of) were set up > to keep them from escaping. There > were a couple of mysterious deaths. An autopsy found that one lady had > several animal bites on her body. Some protestors were beaten by security > guards and sued Scientology. An anti-Scientology site claimed that one > guard was especially brutal but in reality a coward because he ducked down > when some anti-Scientology people drove by and shot at his guard station. > After reading all that I felt much better about “can I help you” all the way > up to “have a nice day” from Sal. As to the photos I took today, perhaps > I spent more time experimenting with my new lens than trying to take good > pictures. There were only 4 I thought worth posting. They are on > page 7 of the August 2011 gallery. If you go to where the 7 pages are > listed and click on the down arrow you will be able to select page 7. The > photos from today are the last 4. Actually, the first two from today were > essentially the same spot, but because Sal took up so much of my time the > sun had come up over the mountains by the time I walked back by that spot. > There is one shot of a hawk which I could have left out, and then the last > one which is of a winding dirt road I liked. LawrenceFrom: Robert Paul > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:39 PM > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning Lawrence, > > There used to be somebody in charge of paranoia here, but he was last seen > being forcibly loaded into a black helicopter. Here's what I know: you may > photograph private property—homes. storefronts, industrial sites—from public > spaces, but you'll need permission to photograph > on private property. If you'd climbed a fence put up by Golden Era > Productions, to get a better view > of their site (or even some wildflowers on their property) you'd need their > consent. > > Whether you could publish, online, or elsewhere, pictures of their site you > took legally from a public space, I don't know. My hunch is that you could, > unless some of their employees were identifiable > in the picture. It's pretty clear that I could walk through downtown > Portland, take photos of storefronts, street signs, parking meters, and so > on, and then publish them on a website, a magazine, or elsewhere without > first getting permission from the store owners or the City of Portland to do > it. > > When it comes to photographing people who are clearly identifiable in the > picture, and publishing it, then, even though you and your subject were both > in a public space, things change; but that > isn't what you were doing. As for Area 51, you're on your > own. > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/Area_51_and_other_Facilities.php > > Thanks for the great account of your encounter. Maybe somewhere near Bend > OR, would suit you, although it's usually colder there than in San Jacinto. > Or so I'm told. > > http://www.ci.bend.or.us/about_bend/index.html > > Robert Paul > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >