[lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid (Andrea, perhaps, can answer my question?)
- From: "Walter C. Okshevsky" <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:24:04 -0230
I have queries about that as well, Julie. I googled myself recently only because
I allowed tech services to "publish" my own personal website and I wanted to see
how "up-front" my website is on google. (It seems the more "hits" a website
gets, the closer to page 1 it is when you google name, institutional
affiliation and sexual orientation, if any). Perusing the enries on me, I
found, besides a number of incriminating references to my work for the KGB in
the late 80s, incorrect ratings of my provincial table tennis status, and a
variety of online publications that I deny ever having written, a number of
litideas posts I sent out over the years. I don't know why postings to
listservs are tagged by google nor do I know how posts are chosen for such
world-wide dissemination. As much of our chat is here is highly contextualized
and not really for wide public consupmtion I sign off my posts as "Walter O
MUN" or "Walter O", with some contrived department and university I formulate
for a lark.
If anyone can enlighten us on such mysteries, please do.
Walter O
MUN
Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:
> I've plugged my name in a couple times into Google just for curiosity. For
> some bizarre reason beyond me, a few of my lit-id posts have shown up on
> Google. Nothing like all -- just a dozen or so. I've never understand why
> those and not others ...
>
> Julie Krueger
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
> > There aren't any Scientologists here, really, around 2,000 in the whole
> > UK. And they aren't tax-exempt here. But it seems you can't keep them
> down,
> > I've just found a 2008 story about a teenager being charged under the
> Public
> > Order Act for calling them a cult, charged by this force (City, not Met)
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > The City of London police came under fire two years ago when it
> > emerged that more than 20 officers, ranging from constable to chief
> > superintendent, had accepted gifts worth thousands of pounds from the
> > Church of Scientology.The City of London Chief Superintendent,
> > Kevin Hurley, praised Scientology for "raising the spiritual wealth of
> > society" during the opening
> > of its headquarters in 2006. Last
> > year a video praising Scientology emerged featuring Ken Stewart,
> > another of the City of London's chief superintendents, although he is
> > not a member of the group.
> > <<<<<<<<<<<<
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/20/1
> >
> > (The Crown Prosecution Service made them drop the case.)
> >
> > Judy Evans, Cardiff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 19/8/11, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning
> > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Friday, 19 August, 2011, 2:21
> >
> > Robert, Thanks, Bend sounds nice. I received two other recommendations,
> > Payson Arizona and some place in Pennsylvania. Susan is open to the idea
> of
> > a move, but the first place we checked, Big Bear, California, didn?t turn
> up
> > any suitable houses. Also, the depressed housing market in California may
> > mean this would not be a good time to move. The ones closest to being
> > suitable were a lot more expensive than the one we live in. Ideally it
> > should be the other way around. A friend predicted that the Public
> > Relations officer, Muriel Dufresne would not call me, that the security
> > guard may not even have told her about me, and that this was a ploy that
> the
> > guards are taught to discourage questionable passersby. If so it worked.
> I
> > felt discouraged. I like to walk around looking for trees and birds, not
> > security guards. As to Julie?s suggestion that perhaps they wanted to use
> > some of my photos, I don?t think there
> > is much chance of that. The second time Sal came up to question me I
> > considered that possibility and asked if it would be possible to go into
> the
> > Golden Era Productions facility some time to take photos. He very
> > vehemently (while shaking his head rapidly from side to side) told me that
> > would never ever be possible. The Area 51 comments may not be far off. I
> > did a very brief check on Google and discovered that Golden Era
> Productions
> > has had some serious problems, some involving law suits. A group of
> > protestors back in 2008 claimed Scientologists were holding members
> > prisoner, and the spiked fences (which they posted pictures of) were set
> up
> > to keep them from escaping. There
> > were a couple of mysterious deaths. An autopsy found that one lady had
> > several animal bites on her body. Some protestors were beaten by security
> > guards and sued Scientology. An anti-Scientology site claimed that one
> > guard was especially brutal but in reality a coward because he ducked down
> > when some anti-Scientology people drove by and shot at his guard station.
> > After reading all that I felt much better about ?can I help you? all the
> way
> > up to ?have a nice day? from Sal. As to the photos I took today,
> perhaps
> > I spent more time experimenting with my new lens than trying to take good
> > pictures. There were only 4 I thought worth posting. They are on
> > page 7 of the August 2011 gallery. If you go to where the 7 pages are
> > listed and click on the down arrow you will be able to select page 7. The
> > photos from today are the last 4. Actually, the first two from today were
> > essentially the same spot, but because Sal took up so much of my time the
> > sun had come up over the mountains by the time I walked back by that spot.
> > There is one shot of a hawk which I could have left out, and then the last
> > one which is of a winding dirt road I liked. LawrenceFrom: Robert Paul
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:39 PM
> > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning Lawrence,
> >
> > There used to be somebody in charge of paranoia here, but he was last seen
> > being forcibly loaded into a black helicopter. Here's what I know: you may
> > photograph private property?homes. storefronts, industrial sites?from
> public
> > spaces, but you'll need permission to photograph
> > on private property. If you'd climbed a fence put up by Golden Era
> > Productions, to get a better view
> > of their site (or even some wildflowers on their property) you'd need
> their
> > consent.
> >
> > Whether you could publish, online, or elsewhere, pictures of their site
> you
> > took legally from a public space, I don't know. My hunch is that you
> could,
> > unless some of their employees were identifiable
> > in the picture. It's pretty clear that I could walk through downtown
> > Portland, take photos of storefronts, street signs, parking meters, and so
> > on, and then publish them on a website, a magazine, or elsewhere without
> > first getting permission from the store owners or the City of Portland to
> do
> > it.
> >
> > When it comes to photographing people who are clearly identifiable in the
> > picture, and publishing it, then, even though you and your subject were
> both
> > in a public space, things change; but that
> > isn't what you were doing. As for Area 51, you're on your
> > own.
> >
> > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/Area_51_and_other_Facilities.php
> >
> > Thanks for the great account of your encounter. Maybe somewhere near Bend
> > OR, would suit you, although it's usually colder there than in San
> Jacinto.
> > Or so I'm told.
> >
> > http://www.ci.bend.or.us/about_bend/index.html
> >
> > Robert Paul
> >
> >
> >
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