> > I stand firm with my previous opinion. Surely a _non-philosophical_ answer > > can be given to 'what is philosophy?'. Ditto, a non-artistic answer can be > given to 'what is art?' What - that they are both a load of crap, for example? I don't see how this addresses Pop's demarcation criterion argument - according to which if the answer is not falsifiable/testable by observation then it is not scientific and is then, ipso facto, metaphysical/philosophical - even if if is not _quality_ metaphysl./philosl, as per above answer. Btw, among other errors, I did earlier mean to say that scientists agree with the norms Popper proposes, not "opposes" as I in fact wrote. But then I fear I will fear my Athens' drug test too. Donal England ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html