Dearest Lurker.... a long time ago in a land far far away was a List entitled " Philosophy and Literature". I remember a very astute and learned Gentleman posted this piece of wisdow that i will be fond to pass on to you : <paraphrasing...when one has an opinon sometimes that opinion can be changed, amended, and or modifyed. However when on has a "position". Rarely will that person move from that position. I have found that Omar has good points, sometimes and is very passionate about posting--thats a good thing. I beg you share . Post what you gleen . This is a good List and your input, rebuttals or opinions are greatly welcomed. Joseph Wells CSUSM Literature and Writing Dept. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Meredith" <Kouroo@xxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] I'm going back to lurking > Recently there has been on this list a discussion of antisemitism and the > Middle East, and I thought I saw an opportunity for me to contribute a > minor fact that was of my personal knowledge. After I had contributed that > fact, another contributor to this list, "Omar Kosturica," snapped back in > the following manner: > >This happened during the early days of the Islamic > >revolution. So are we now going to tell an anecdote or > >two from Europe during World War II and conclude > >thereof that the European societies are, have always > >been, and will always be, pervasively anti-Semitic ? > >Or an anecdote from Russia during the 'pogrom' days, > >and draw similar conclusions about the Russian society? > > Since I do not appreciate being responded to in such a manner, I am going > to return to lurking. I wish I had not bothered to share my information, > such as it was, with this list. > > This "Omar Kosturica" continued with an irrelevancy about something he > seems to remember from several centuries before he was born: > > >I seem to remember that the grandfather of Nathaniel > >Hawthorne sentenced a Quaker woman to be whipped in > >the streets of Boston, which is mentioned in one of > >his stories. > > The person to whom "Omar Kosturica" seems to be referring to was Nathaniel > Hawthorne's great-great-great-grandfather William Hathorne (1606/07-1681), > rather than one of his grandfathers. He had arrived on these shores in 1630 > on the Arbella, settling in Dorchester in New England and then moving to > Salem. This great-great-great-grandfather would serve as a Major in wars > against the Americans and become a Magistrate and Judge of the Puritans, > and we have his holograph signature upon a warrant for the whipping out of > town of Friend Anne Coleman for being a Quaker. Nathaniel Hawthorne the > fiction writer, one of this man's great-great-great-grandsons, did in fact > refer to this warrant in one of his fictions. > > Omar Kosturica's summation was: > > >What could this tell us about the American society? > > I would respond with "What could it tell us about this lit-ideas list, that > a lurker, myself, rose from lurking for a moment, and contributed something > -- only to promptly regret having bothered to do so?" > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html