We've discussed this before. The usual comparative figures for violent crime include, e.g., theft of a bicycle, and theft of money in the street. When those are included, the UK is indeed more violent than the US. I'll find my post that explains all this, meanwhile I'll quote a comment on the blog to which you link " Is 23 violent crimes per 1,000 "an astonishing figure when compared to the US data" as the author claims? According to National Crime Victimization Survey data posted on the US Department of Justice Website there were 21 violent crimes per 1,000 in the US. Go back to 1994 and it's 51.2 violent crimes per 1,000 in the US. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/gla.../ viortrdtab.htm" 2 (immediately above it)"In England, the citizens are hard pressed to protect themselves, unless they practice martial arts continuously or secretly carry weapons. Citizens defying the law and carrying weapons are scarce excluding criminals, so criminals are more brazen and attack the unprotected. Therefore, it followis that violent crime statistics are higher in England then in the U.S. " I walk here without fear with no weapons. I've lived in Cardiff for 6 years or so now, during that time, there's been, in my extended inner-city suburb neighbourhood, one possibly suspicious death (in fact, he'd collapsed while jogging, but the police doorstepped us all while that was being investigated), one rape (a young woman who'd walked all the way home from a night club in the city, drunk (again we were all doorstepped, there was a massive police poster campaign, the man's now in gaol), and an awful lot of pickpocketing (aka "violent crime"). Halloween, twice, I've managed to let the rather dodgy front door Yale lock slip and the house has been wide open for hours. Nothing happened. I'm a Londoner so I do lock everything up when I go out and secure the place at night. Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK