[lit-ideas] Re: Ground Zero (hey, Eric?)

  • From: carol kirschenbaum <carolkir@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 17:15:44 -0700

As do I (know what you're referring to). A native New Yorker here--born,
bred, left ages ago. When I first read about the Cordova Center, it was in
an architectural, not geographical context--not as a proposed edifice "at"
Ground Zero.

Perception is all. Conceptualized as a mosque "at" or "near" Ground
zero--any reference at all to GZ--makes the project highly objectionable,
like some sort of trophy to the victors of war. Clearly the US and the
West--not just New York--can't have that.

Wasn't that Palin's intent, however? Just revving up the anti-Moslem,
pro-warrior mentality, anti-liberal brigade. Things have been too quiet.

ck






On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Judith Evans
<judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>   oddly enough, Julie, I know what you're referring to, as does JL: the
> (proposed)  Cordoba Centre. My 'not a mosque' was in a way incorrect, as the
> centre includes a prayer room (if I understand the proposals correctly).
> More here
>
>
> http://www.cordobainitiative.org/
>
> clearly this is a matter for New York, as JL says
>
> Judy Evans, Cardiff
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/8/10, Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ground Zero (hey, Eric?)
>
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 0:06
>
>
> I should have said "near" Ground Zero...  Judy, this is what I was
> referring to:
>
>
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gieR_gNwrCUCH2jR03xjTCoEp4qgD9HC8RT00
> <http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gieR_gNwrCUCH2jR03xjTCoEp4qgD9HC8RT00>
> Julie Krueger
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:44 PM, 
> <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
>
>  And that's of course what Palin is asking or was asking 'peaceful
> Muslims' to refudiate.
>
> In a message dated 8/3/2010 7:31:38 P.M., 
> judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>writes:
>
> not a mosque -- oh I see, it contains a mosque -- not at ground zero.
>
> but I'm not a New Yorker...
>
>
> -----
>
> Those who attack or criticise Palin do mention that it is up to New Yorkers
> to decide -- it would be something to be decided legally, whether "Cordoba
> House" should be built or not.
>
> It has been mentioned that "Cordoba" is the wrong name, in that it evokes
> that city in Spain which was invaded violently (if that's not a redundancy)
> and all relics of Western civilisation (read: churches, etc.) demolished, or
> stuff.
>
> Cordoba House would officially be or would be a "Community Centre" and
> would include a 'gym', too. I don't know what streets it would be on, --
> e.g. if it would occupy half a block or what.
>
> Speranza
> Bordighera
>
>
>
>

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