My last post today -- In a message dated 8/3/2010 9:17:57 P.M., carolkir@xxxxxxxxx writes: like some sort of trophy to the victors of war. ------ Egsactly, as one might say. The link given by J. K. mentioned: >"a 13-story, $100 million Islamic center. Cordoba wants to transform the building into a glass tower with a swimming pool, basketball court, auditorium and culinary school besides the mosque. The center, called Park51, also would have a library, art studios and meditation rooms." (I have not checked the link provided by J. Evans). ---- Oddly, I was made aware of this at the Club (I mean, the Grice Club) where one contributor wrote under my post, "refudiate: vomit?" -- I was referring to an online source that was criticising Palin for not being 'clear enough' when she said to 'refudiate' the plan (My current pet is that introducing such a new lexeme can only confuse the not so literati: it sounds too much like 'repudiate'). Anyway, this contributor put me to task, logically, for focusing on a semantic issue, when it was (I will rephrase the contributor's posting) it being a "political [or] ethical [issue]", rather. By referring to the consensus, in my post to lit-ideas, I was in a way adhering to a point made by this contributor, to the effect, that consesus, the contributor claimed, is "not how American business operates". So we'll see what comes up out of this. There is an appeal to be held tomorrow. The contributor makes a point about _whose_ vote counts, and the contributor suggests, "local citizens" "within a few miles" of the proposed 'sacred' building -- adding that's possibly "not how the free market works". The contributor also makes the point that sacred buildings, it seems, bear "tax-exempt status." The contributor notes that Palin sounds "likes she's trying to accommodate NY muslims." The contributor also makes the good point that "some might feel the mosque's inappropriate", without implying they are conservatives. ----- I'll check with J. Evans's what blocks this is supposed to cover --. I see the major celebrated, as it were, that the building which now stands does not qualify as a 'landmark' -- but that is what is going to be appealed tomorrow, it seems. In any case, the issue seems minor here, in that even if it were given landmark status, the proposed centre would be built -- a smaller one, within the existing structure. Etc. Refudiate? Quite 'pls refudiate'. A point against Palin seems to be: if she was coining a clever Dodgsonianism, why did she delete the original message anyway? (I trust it was to avoid breaching the Gricean maxim, 'avoid confusion', or something --). Speranza The Swimming-Pool Library Bordighera