[lit-ideas] Grice's Infinity, Popper's Infinity

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  • Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT)

McEvoy is considering Euclid's Theorem in Popperian terms.

Then  there's this  link:



http://www.cs.joensuu.fi/~whamalai/skc/popper.html

that  uses some interesting abbreviations that McEvoy may find useful.

Notably,  World 3.3 is that bit of world 3 which has no exact correlate (or 
is not part of  any intersection) of World 3 with World 1 or World 2.

As the author  notes:

"the existence of World 3.3 is crucial for World 3's independence  - 
otherwise we could reduce it to worlds 1 and 2."

The author goes on to  ask:

"But are there  such objects, which have not yet taken any form  in World 1 
or World 2?"

"Popper answers "Yes"".

"He believes that  there are objects in World 3, which have not yet been 
realized by people, but  which still exist. They can be e.g. logical 
consequences of the mentally  recognized theories, or unknown relationships 
between 
World 3 objects. Still  this "shade world" is real, because it already has 
influence on World 1 by World  2. The problems and theories of World 3 can be 
our products, but still they are  not only our constructions: their truth or 
falsity depends on both the stucture  of World 3 and World 1. E.g. whether 
a human being can solve some mathematical  problem, depends on the fact, 
whether it has a solution in World 3 and whether  the solver has all the 
required knowledge items of World 3 (and has understood  them correctly)."

Also, talking of a different type of  intersection:

"E.g. a human being can understand the idea of an infinite  series of 
integers without any physical representation of it (which would be  
impossible)."

I think there are various readings of this above:

"A  human being CAN understand" -- but does HE (or she) UNDERSTAND? It 
seems that  when we use 'can' we sometimes mean 'do not' ("He can play the 
flute 
but he  won't").

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I believe Dummett saw part of this -- in the Oxonian  context -- when he 
found that Oxonians had undervalued the intuitionistic side  to infinity.

Or not.

Among the different formulations of  intuitionism, such as it was NOT 
popular in Grice's time, there are several  different positions on the meaning 
and reality of infinity.
 
In fact, the term "POTENTIAL infinity" is used to refer to a  mathematical 
procedure in which there is an unending series of steps. 
 
After each step has been completed, there is always another step to be  
performed. 
 
For example, consider the process of counting: 
 
Grice (to student): Count!

Student: One, Two, Three, Four...
 
Grice (to student): Stop!
 
Student stops. (Note that had Grice NOT uttered, "Stop!", the Student,  
theoretically, would have proceeded "ad infinitum").
 
 
1, 2, 3, …

The term, "actual infinity", as it is hardly used in Oxford, refers to a  
completed mathematical object which contains an infinite number of elements. 
 
An example is the set of natural numbers, N = {1, 2, …}.
 
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Mathematicians use "..." ambiguously, when what they mean, strictly, is 
 
"∞" 
 
Note that, as Grice notes, "∞" should be distinguished from "א"  (aleph).
 
In set theory, a discipline within mathematics, the aleph numbers are a  
sequence of numbers used to represent the cardinality (or size) of infinite  
sets. 
 
They are named after the symbol used to denote them, the Hebrew letter  
aleph א.
 
The cardinality of the natural numbers is \aleph_0 (read aleph-naught,  
aleph-null, or aleph-zero), the next larger cardinality is aleph-one \aleph_1,  
then \aleph_2 and so on. 
 
Continuing in this manner, it is possible to define a cardinal number  
\aleph_\alpha for every ordinal number α.
 
The concept goes back to Georg Cantor, who defined the notion of  
cardinality and realized that infinite sets can have different  cardinalities.
 
The aleph numbers differ from the infinity (∞) commonly found in algebra  
and calculus, and Grice knew this -- and Popper ignored this.



In Cantor's formulation of set theory, there are many different infinite  
sets, some of which are larger than others. 
 
For example, the set of all real numbers R is larger than N, because any  
procedure that you attempt to use to put the natural numbers into one-to-one  
correspondence with the real numbers will always fail.
 
There will always be an infinite number of real numbers "left over". 
 
Any infinite set that can be placed in one-to-one correspondence with the  
natural numbers is said to be "countable" or "denumerable". 
 
Infinite sets larger than this are said to be "uncountable".


Cantor's set theory led to the axiomatic system of ZFC, now the most common 
 foundation of modern mathematics. 
 
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Note that Dummett's Intuitionism (as was influential in Oxford) was  
created, in part, as a reaction to Cantor's set theory.


Modern constructive set theory does include the axiom of infinity from  
Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory (or a revised version of this axiom), and includes  
the set N of natural numbers. 
 
Most modern constructive mathematicians accept the reality of countably  
infinite sets (however, see Alexander Esenin-Volpin for a counter-example -- 
or  Popper for another unconvincing one).
 

Brouwer rejected the concept of actual infinity, but admitted the idea  of 
potential infinity.
 

Brouwer made it clear, as I think beyond any doubt, that there is no  
evidence supporting the belief in the existential character of the totality of  
all natural numbers.
 
The sequence of numbers which grows beyond any stage already reached by  
passing to the next number, is a manifold of possibilities open towards  
infinity.
 
It remains forever in the status of creation, but is not a closed realm of  
things existing in themselves. 
 
That we blindly converted one into the other is the true source of our  
difficulties, including the antinomies – a source of more fundamental nature  
than Russell's vicious circle principle indicated. 
 
Brouwer opened our eyes and made us see how far classical mathematics,  
nourished by a belief in the 'absolute' that transcends all human possibilities 
 of realization, goes beyond such statements as can claim real meaning and 
truth  founded on evidence." 
 
Grice's Finitism is an extreme version of Intuitionism that rejects the  
idea of potential infinity. 
 
Grice's example of an absurd claim:

So far as I know there are  infinitely many stars.
 
(Unintended "implicature": I do NOT know [cfr. "Grice's Implicature,  
Speranza's Implicanza"). 
 
 
According to Finitism, a mathematical object does not exist unless it can  
be constructed from the natural numbers in a finite number of steps.
 
"Surely a star is NOT constructed, which poses an extra problem to the  
absurd claim."

Cheers,

Speranza
 
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