[lit-ideas] Re: Grice Now

  • From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:33:04 +0000 (GMT)

They weren't that serious, nor did they contain serious argument; however, 
though they have failed to reach the archives - for whatever reason - and may 
not therefore have reached the list, one must have got throughin some form as 
it provoked two off-list posts to me which, if I knew Italian better, I might 
be able to confirm were abusive. This now adds to puzzles that remain, 
including how someone (some time ago) managed to post to the list in the guise 
of my mailing-address. 

Turning to the substance of the thread: of course, the following only appear to 
contradict:-

>For example

'John  Locke--my favourite English philosopher ever--mostly influential in  
Oxford…'

'Thomas Hobbes--my favourite English philosopher  EVER…'>

Not only has time passed between the first and second claim in which a change 
of opinion is logically possible and indeed permissible, but they are perhaps 
logically compatible provided "ever" and "EVER" are not equivalent 
"substitutionally" a la early Kripke.

As to Locke, his influence is so huge that it hides in plain sight and it is 
possible to frame the outstanding philosophical issue of modern times as to 
whether we adopt a kind of Lockean realism or a kind of Kantian idealism [see 
Michael Ayers on Locke for this kind of view].


D




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013, 13:11
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Grice Now

Perhaps you can try resending them?  
Thanks,
I will comment on R. Paul under a separate post, I  hope.
Cheers,
Speranza



In a message dated 1/18/2013 8:15:42  A.M. UTC-02, 
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
A post in this thread and in  another were sent by me yesterday but have 
not showed up, even in the archive,  so this is to check what is happening and 
to assure everyone how worthwhile  those posts were.

D





----- Original Message  -----
From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
To:  lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013,  1:19
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Grice Now

JL presents a list of  philosophers from Philosophy Now's recent 'polls' 
and comments on their  proximity to or distance from the Master.

For example

'John  Locke--my favourite English philosopher ever--mostly influential in  
Oxford…'

'Thomas Hobbes--my favourite English philosopher  EVER…'

One should, I think, pass over in silence this evidence that on  some 
questions JL is of two minds. As it were.

Students of Constitutional  history might add that Locke was somewhat 
influential in the the Colonies; or,  rather, his ideas were. At Oxford, he was 
mostly admired for his ability to  recite the Tractatus, in German, at a 
moment's notice.

Robert Paul,
a  long way from Brasenose  College



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