[lit-ideas] Re: Giving Thanksgiving/Adorno and TAP

  • From: Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:02:58 -0500



On 12/7/2010 1:10 PM, palma wrote:
does anyone bother to note that "democracy" is a
formal term to be speeld out in different ways?


Yes indeed, and in history, absolute democracy is usually a terrible practice. (Note dead Socrates. Remember Alcibiades. Consult Aristotle.)

Omar wrote: few if any democratic states grant the chief executive the ability to veto legislation, appoint the supreme judges and the major ministers (Secretary of State, Defense etc) and issue decrees that have the force of law as long as they are not openly unconstitutional.


* To veto legislation sends it back to Congress, which has the power to override the President. If a President vetoes very popular legislation, moreover, his entire political party may suffer at the mid-term elections, so it is seldom done.

* To appoint Supreme Court judges is an infrequent practice, as all judges are not replaced during a particular term; further, once appointed, the Supreme Court judges are not responsible to, or indebted to, anyone at all, including the President. (Remember how angry Eisenhower was with his appointment, yet could do nothing.)

* To "issue decrees that have the force of law as long as they are not openly unconstitutional" in the US is a very lowly power, given the range of things considered unconstitutional, especially in peace time. In fact, the power of the US President has declined considerably since Truman.

Case in point is the War Powers Act, through which Congress limits the President's ability to wage all-out war, or to demand a full Declaration of War. With a full declaration of war, "the gloves come off," nukes and all, but under the War Powers Act, Congress limits how the US can wage war, and makes a president's war subject to Congressional review. War Powers Acts have governed US wars in modern times.

* In addition, the appointed cabinet members, and/or Congress, can remove a US President if he or she gets too crazy or is shown to be acting criminally (in the case of Nixon or Clinton).

I hope this helps explain misconceptions about the role of the US President.

Eric
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