Are you familiar with a very dated (copyright 1957) book "Ethics", by A. C. Ewing? (It was still being used in University classes in the 1980's...) If so, what do you think about it? And what current books on the subject would you recommend? "Ethics" attempts to address the question of where a moral system or a system of ethics comes from or arises. When I was studying such things, when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, there was a very cut and dried distinction made between "ethics" and "morality". Is that still the case in current philo? Julie Krueger wishing I remembered everything I studied ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Euthyphro Date: 12/9/2006 2:59:58 P.M. Central Standard Time From: _rpaul@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:rpaul@xxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: Eric: That's where Socrates demolishes the notion that "good" is fundamentally based in God (or the gods), nicht wahr? Not exactly. It's the one in which he asks whether something is pious (that's the Jowett translation) because it's loved by the gods or whether the gods love it because it's pious. If you substitute 'good' for 'pious' you might see one difficulty with the view that religion determines the right and the good, or at least a problem for those who think it does. Perseus doesn't have a Greek text of Euthyphro, although it does have an English one. (The text John McCreery cited has some spelling glitches and lacunae; maybe there's a slightly cleaner one somewhere.) Robert Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html