Robert Paul wrote: "... I think that if Habermas is in a nutshell it would be best to leave him there. Sometime's that's the best place for philosophers." While not denying Robert's observation regarding philosophers, I do think that Habermas is working with an important distinction between morality and ethics. Perhaps Robert would be more comfortable with Kant's distinction between public/private reasoning, which Habermas seems to be tracking with his morality/ethics argument. Returning to the OP, I look forward to following the Euthyphro discussion. Sincerely, Phil Enns Glen Haven, NS ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html