[lit-ideas] Re: Dumbing it down for Julie...

  • From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:09:08 -0500

JK:
>>Ah, if only all e-mails came through entirely intact and with universal 
>>indications re. quotation style, etc.<<

Yes, one of my pet peeves, too.  I hate trying to guess what a cryptic post is 
in response to -- as if it were assumed I had been paying attention.


Julie Krueger: "admittedly slow and dumb under the best of circumstances"

Goethe: "Know thyself? If I knew myself I would run away."    : )


Mike Geary
a run-away

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julie Krueger 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:03 AM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Dumbing it down for Julie...


  Ah, if only all e-mails came through entirely intact and with universal 
indications re. quotation style, etc.

  One can only dream.

  Thanks for clarifying.

  Julie Krueger
  admittedly slow and dumb under the best of circumstances

   
  On 5/29/08, David Wright <wright@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 
    R e s p o n d i n g   t o  t h e  f o l l o w i n g . . .

    Irene:

    Natural gas powers a lot of our electricity (oil is mostly transportation, 
agriculture, plastics and the like) and natural gas is going the way of oil 
which is to say, it's a finite resource, running down.  Water is running down 
too, so states that use hydroelectric power may start to see declines in the 
not too distant future.  Biofuel is a waste, literally. 
    ...
    The problem with nuclear power plants is that they take about 10 years to 
come on line, and they take oil to build, so we need to get started on them 
pretty quick...
    ...
    The real answer is conservation, lots of conservation, plus wind and solar 
farms out in the desert.  Also conserving water big time and transporting goods 
by rail and water instead of truck.

    w  r    i      t      i      n      g                v         e           
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    d.


      Is David talking to himself? 

      Julie Krueger

       
      On 5/29/08, David Wright <wright@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 
        Well said. That is the problem, in a nutshell, that the majority  will 
not exercise limited use.  I suspect that even coal would suffice if only...  
That is, fundamentally, my argument against religious veggiedom.  That is to 
say, that abstention from the consumption of meat is not enough, it is merely a 
star(t) on the horizon...

        egregiously yours,
        d.



                I recently heard a discussion with pro-nuclear power types who 
claim it's not dangerous.  They made a pretty good case.  The problem from what 
I could tell is that we don't really have much choice.  Natural gas powers a 
lot of our electricity (oil is mostly transportation, agriculture, plastics and 
the like) and natural gas is going the way of oil which is to say, it's a 
finite resource, running down.  Water is running down too, so states that use 
hydroelectric power may start to see declines in the not too distant future.  
Biofuel is a waste, literally.  



                The problem with nuclear power plants is that they take about 
10 years to come on line, and they take oil to build, so we need to get started 
on them pretty quick, and of course where to bury the rods (some can be 
recycled I think).  Unfortunately, we need so many power plants that there's 
only enough uranium for about 20 years if enough plants were to be built to 
power everything.  



                The real answer is conservation, lots of conservation, plus 
wind and solar farms out in the desert.  Also conserving water big time and 
transporting goods by rail and water instead of truck.  I heard/read that 
Algeria I think is coming up with solar farms, these huge magnified mirror type 
things, such that they may be able to power Europe.   We're not even beginning 
to think about anything at all.  





                --- On Fri, 5/30/08, David Wright <wright@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


                  From: David Wright <wright@xxxxxxxx>
                  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Today's situation with food
                  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                  Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 3:02 AM 



                  Always a Roberts reader, and even a secret Irene affic...  I 
wouldn't bust your (non-pork) chops if I didn't generally agree with you.  
By-the-by, what are your thoughts on nuke power, considering that we cannot 
reasonably expect the masses to limit their consumption of electricity.


                  turning a dynamo,
                  d.
                    




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