[lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:53:57 -0800

I think you need old Sigmund's help, Irene.  Poor Herr Helm isn't going to
have the foggiest idea what you are talking about.  He is going to expect
you to reply to the article he posted rather than one you read on the BBC
which he isn't going to even think possible.  Further, his article has
nothing to say about mass transit which is going to further befuddle him.
But old Sigmund sees your longing for mother Russia and your resentment of
Herr Helm's insensitive insults about the ineptness of group-think and
socialistic planning which would have worked well enough were it not for a
few little problems here and there.  What do you think about that Irene?
And about what Putin is doing to bring some semblance of order back after
all those gangsterish inroads by the so-called free-enterprise people? 

 

Sigmund

 

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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:31 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market

 

I had read it on Russian BBC yesterday.  I know what it's about and it
doesn't affect my statements about military Keynesiansim.   Those are the
same companies that contract for the government.  I don't see any trains
being built in this country for mass transit purposes, not in any meaningful
way.




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
Sent: Jan 18, 2007 12:05 PM 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market 




It appears, Irene, that you haven't read the subject article.  What a
relief.  I thought it was only my notes you didn't read.  The article has
nothing to do with military matters.  The competition between Boeing and
Airbus has been in the realm of commercial aviation.  Boeing has diversified
somewhat to cushion the ups and downs of its Aircraft business, but it was
begun as and is still primarily a producer of commercial aircraft.  It is
upon commercial aircraft ventures that the fortunes of Boeing and Airbus
will rise or fall.  The article focuses, ahem, to repeat again, on
Commercial Aircraft.  There has been tremendous competition over the years
in COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT.    I lived through that competition as Douglas was
submerged in McDonnell Douglas which was in turn submerged in Boeing to a
very large extent because of the tough competition from Airbus which was
getting governmental support from several European nations.  Now, as the
article explains, the effects of these nations competing for Airbus jobs has
worked harm upon the product.  Designing anything by committee is always a
risky business.  Airbus has not been able to be as innovative, as
entrepreneurial as Boeing and has now fallen behind IN THE COMMERCIAL
AIRCRAFT INDUSTRY.  

 

While in the process of turning your plowshares into swords, perhaps you
could save a small part, say something in the blade or the handle and have a
pair of eyeglasses made for yourself.

 

Lawrence

 


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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:29 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market

 

Military Keynesianism, so of course your pension isn't in any (immediate)
danger.  The military keeps this country economically afloat, such as it is.
Pensions for those not tied to the military, which is to say the rest of the
middle class, are not so certain.  We need to all turn our plowshares into
swords...




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
Sent: Jan 18, 2007 10:23 AM 
To: Lit-Ideas 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Boeing and the Aviation Market 





 
<http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2007/01/18/boeing_and_the_avi
ation_market>
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2007/01/18/boeing_and_the_avia
tion_market

 

There are several interesting items in this article:

 

1.      My pension, which is paid by Boeing, appears to be in no immediate
danger. 
2.      The fear of flying after 9/11 seems to be over. 
3.      The long term support of Airbus by European governments seems to be
doing the same kind of thing to Airbus that government support did to the
USSR with a similar outlook. 

 

Lawrence

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