I think you need old Sigmund's help, Irene. Poor Herr Helm isn't going to have the foggiest idea what you are talking about. He is going to expect you to reply to the article he posted rather than one you read on the BBC which he isn't going to even think possible. Further, his article has nothing to say about mass transit which is going to further befuddle him. But old Sigmund sees your longing for mother Russia and your resentment of Herr Helm's insensitive insults about the ineptness of group-think and socialistic planning which would have worked well enough were it not for a few little problems here and there. What do you think about that Irene? And about what Putin is doing to bring some semblance of order back after all those gangsterish inroads by the so-called free-enterprise people? Sigmund _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:31 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market I had read it on Russian BBC yesterday. I know what it's about and it doesn't affect my statements about military Keynesiansim. Those are the same companies that contract for the government. I don't see any trains being built in this country for mass transit purposes, not in any meaningful way. -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Helm Sent: Jan 18, 2007 12:05 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market It appears, Irene, that you haven't read the subject article. What a relief. I thought it was only my notes you didn't read. The article has nothing to do with military matters. The competition between Boeing and Airbus has been in the realm of commercial aviation. Boeing has diversified somewhat to cushion the ups and downs of its Aircraft business, but it was begun as and is still primarily a producer of commercial aircraft. It is upon commercial aircraft ventures that the fortunes of Boeing and Airbus will rise or fall. The article focuses, ahem, to repeat again, on Commercial Aircraft. There has been tremendous competition over the years in COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT. I lived through that competition as Douglas was submerged in McDonnell Douglas which was in turn submerged in Boeing to a very large extent because of the tough competition from Airbus which was getting governmental support from several European nations. Now, as the article explains, the effects of these nations competing for Airbus jobs has worked harm upon the product. Designing anything by committee is always a risky business. Airbus has not been able to be as innovative, as entrepreneurial as Boeing and has now fallen behind IN THE COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT INDUSTRY. While in the process of turning your plowshares into swords, perhaps you could save a small part, say something in the blade or the handle and have a pair of eyeglasses made for yourself. Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:29 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Boeing and the Aviation Market Military Keynesianism, so of course your pension isn't in any (immediate) danger. The military keeps this country economically afloat, such as it is. Pensions for those not tied to the military, which is to say the rest of the middle class, are not so certain. We need to all turn our plowshares into swords... -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Helm Sent: Jan 18, 2007 10:23 AM To: Lit-Ideas Subject: [lit-ideas] Boeing and the Aviation Market <http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2007/01/18/boeing_and_the_avi ation_market> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2007/01/18/boeing_and_the_avia tion_market There are several interesting items in this article: 1. My pension, which is paid by Boeing, appears to be in no immediate danger. 2. The fear of flying after 9/11 seems to be over. 3. The long term support of Airbus by European governments seems to be doing the same kind of thing to Airbus that government support did to the USSR with a similar outlook. Lawrence ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html