Steve Barbour asked: Subject: [LRflex] Re: formula for lens cleaning fluid > I love the story about a piece of hot metal ? gouging your front element....etc...<<<< Hi Steve, Oh yeah I forgot about that one! :-) In other words do not work too close to a welder while he's making sparks usually of molten metal flying through the air. :-( I wanted a nice tight shot, so I had a 28mm on an R camera of some sort and was in really close to all the flying stuff, obviously not thinking about any of it landing on the front element. Well it did and burnt a zit right into the glass! My first reaction was... "SH.. ruined lens!" :-( Nope it worked just fine zit and all. Anyway I thought I should sell it more from a psychological thing than actual fault to be seen in Kodachromes or 16X20 B&W prints. One day a guy asked if I had any lenses for sale? Yeah a 28mm, I didn't say anything about the zit because it was so obvious I figured he'd see it, ask about it and probably wouldn't buy it. He didn't see it, I didn't say anything, he got a good price and I bought a new 28mm. :-) As far as I know he was happy as all get out buying a lens at a good price and never ever mentioned the zit at any time I saw him in the future. The lesson here is... dust, zits and crap right on the front element quite often don't affect the cutting edge of the lens unless it's very very bad. That's why when I tell photographers shooting from behind a wire fence as in baseball from behind the umpire, put the lens right at the fence so that the lens barrel is touching the fence, aperture wide open or maybe one stop down and "YOU WILL NOT SEE THE WIRES COVERING OVER THE FRONT ELEMENT!!" Works best with any lens 100mm or longer. Done it hundreds and hundreds of times shooting Little League baseball mostly with 400mm and some professional games. cheers, ted ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/