Hi guys Many thanks for the warm welcome and all that useful information on R cameras. One more question if I may indulge your patience. I have been very impressed with the viewfinder on the SL2. It is clear, focusing is really simple, it gives me all the key information and the match needle system is simple to use. David Young when speaking about the R8 wrote: "The finder is second only to the SL/SL2 and will blow nearly everything else out of the water." Does the R8 finder really not match that of the SL2? I can note Jem Kime (of the newly merged Leica Society) runs the The Real Camera shop in Manchester and he has a s/h R8 that is tempting me, but it is one of the first batch from Germany. I have just started a photo-blog (not restricted to Leica) at http://photo-odyssey.blogspot.com/. Not much there yet but I am working at it. I am also playing with the new free-silver site for Leicas ( <http://leica.free-silver.org/> http://leica.free-silver.org/). It looks useful; the editing facilities look comprehensive. There I have loaded some test shots for the new SL2; I have to stress they are just that - test shots - and I make no claims for them. See them more as an experiment in the new site. On the basis of my prints from these test shots I have to say I am very pleased with the f2.8/35mm Elmarit-R. The jury is still out on the 60mm Macro. One of my long standing favourite Nikon lenses has been the 55mm Micro (at first f3.5 and now f2.8 - have an eye on the 60mm AF); not sure the Leica 60mm matches them, but it is early days. In any case, it is an interesting focal length. All the best, Chris Birchenhall P.S. A word to Douglas Sharp: I may be an adopted Mancunian - been here for over 30 yrs - but I was born and bred in the Potteries. ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/