[LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
- From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leica reflex freelists <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 18:31:53 -0800
Love my right angle finder for my R. But of course, I only use it for its
intended purpose - to save my knees and back.
Aram
> From: tedgrant@xxxxxxx
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:54:01 -0800
>
> Sorry David it doesn't work that way! Besides in all my years of using M
> cameras there hasn't ever been a time where I required or even thought of a
> waist level finder.
>
> yep on the R camera an occasions or two, but the necessity was never large
> enough to require buying one.
>
> Besides the M if swung properly flat base plate to the opponents skull
> leaves them with a very fine idea of.... "Don't mess with Leica M camera
> photographers!" :-) Man it has got to hurt real bad when you give them a
> real good whack! :-)
> cheers,
> ted
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Simms" <simmszee@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:44 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>
>
> > Gentlemen;
> > In the interests of PEACE and of maintaining your M or R camers in ex+
> > condition, I would suggest the use of the add-on 90 degree finder of the
> > R- not quite what we'd call an elegant solution- and the AUFSU or
> > sometimes the AFSU ancient waist level finder for the M. I've been kicking
> > myself for passing up one, well used, example on the Bay for $89. This way
> > we can hide our M cameras, set for hyperfocal distance and get the shot
> > WITHOUT USING THE M AS A WEAPON. Just an idea.
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "tedgrant@xxxxxxx" <tedgrant@xxxxxxx>
> > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:16:16 PM
> > Subject: [LRflex] avoiding M6 weaponry
> >
> > Wayne,
> > You are the only other person in my 60 year career as a professional
> > photojournalist that I've ever heard used an M in this fashion as we did!
> > I suppose there are a few others out there, however I'll stick to the
> > story that we are very special Leica M photograpers in fights and fury!
> > :-)
> > Given the area I'm surprised you got away with it and lived another day.
> > Certainly when we hear the stories about some
> > of those parts that I might call "Off limits parts of town!" :-)
> > cheers,
> > ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wayne Serrano" <wayneserrano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:58 PM
> > Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
> >
> >
> >> Hi Ted,
> >> A great tale for sure! But sorry to hear abut the abuse. So I am going to
> >> share some details of my encounter;
> >> I was in East LA in what some call the barrio! I was shooting street
> >> scenes of the environment and people going about their regular business
> >> nothing special overall but lots of interest in the details. As I was
> >> walking coming towards me were three 20+ something year old gentlemen who
> >> were obviously from the area. As we past each other the one closest to my
> >> left shoulder said loudly to the other two 'nice cameras.' I was carrying
> >> one M6 with a Rapidwinder (aluminum with cocking lever folded) with a
> >> 50mm Summicron mounted and carried across my neck and chest and hanging
> >> off my left side. A second M6 with Rapidwinder (Brass with folded lever)
> >> with 28mm Summicron was in my right hand with the strap wrapped around my
> >> wrist and hand. Suddenly, a few steps past these gents I feel a large tug
> >> on my left shoulder and forcing me to spun around. As I continued to spin
> >> or rather turn I had begin to bring the camera up and seeing that the
> >> fairly big young
> > man was pretty close I used
> > m
> >> y momentum to help bring the M6 with brass winder come into flat contact
> >> with the left side of this individuals head and face. He went down hard,
> >> just sort of sat down actually then went over onto his side like a sack
> >> of potatoes. He two friends immediately went to his aid and began to cuss
> >> him out! The lad was conscious but a tad goofy and confused. His friends
> >> apologized and said he got what he deservered, I said I was sorry and as
> >> I walked away my step was a bit more focused in putting as much distance
> >> as I could between them and myself.
> >> It wasn't something I enjoyed but at the moment it was a fight or flee
> >> situation.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >> ps My M's have never ever let me down!
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>From: tedgrant@xxxxxxx
> >>>Sent: Jan 8, 2010 3:14 PM
> >>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
> >>>
> >>>Wayne Serrano offered:
> >>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6
> >>
> >> Hi Wayne,
> >> Now I feel really good as I now know I'm not alone using an M camera as
> >> an excellent weapon of choice when one's well being is in a moment of
> >> peril! :-)
> >> My situation occurred right after a CFL football game and some "drunks"
> >> began pushing and shoving the rent-a-cops around who were asking them to
> >> leave the playing field. I shot a few frames just as one drunk saw me
> >> shoot him. So now he's in full charge at me wanting my camera, meanwhile
> >> I had the strap around my right wrist and trying to calm him down. Oh
> >> yeah and I had a Nikon with a 500mm mirror lens attached hanging around
> >> my neck on my chest. In any event, I was without question in a "NO WIN
> >> SITUATION" this guy was determined to get the camera. So I gave it to
> >> him! :-)
> >> As hard as I could swing it on the neck strap I let him have it base
> >> plate flat to the left side of his head.... he dropped like a brick! :-)
> >> I mean if you are going to whack someone in this fashion you must do it
> >> with all your strength! As you don't want them to get up any madder at
> >> you than they are! So WHAAM!!!!
> >> His buddies weren't too happy with that, so they jumped me face down on
> >> the ground and began punching me in the head and back, fortunately the
> >> rent-a-cops saved me . But the impact going down to ground broke the
> >> mirror lens right out of the body of the camera. In any event I found out
> >> they were off duty police officers in civvies, so it was easy to track
> >> them down as I had some sharp clear images of one or two guys brawling
> >> and a Canadian Press photog had photographed them on top of me punching
> >> away.
> >> One officer 16 years experience was fired, another suspended and a couple
> >> of others were put on other type of duty. The police paid for the
> >> repairs. But I bet the guy I clocked with the M4 had a very long
> >> headache! ;-) Yep the camera worked just fine and required no service
> >> whatsoever. Just got to love those M Leica's in a battle! ;-)
> >> cheers,
> >> ted
> >>
> >>
> >>
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