[LRflex] Re: Scanned film vs Digital
- From: Andy Barton <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:28:47 +0000
I'd love to know who the second Leica dealer in Manchester is ...
;-)
On 6 Nov 2006, at 21:05, Chris Birchenhall wrote:
> David
>
> Thanks for the timely message. Let me out the following in context
> - the
> question is deep down there somewhere.
>
> Today our local Manchester Jacobs store had a Leica day and I was
> able to
> have a quick play with a M8 and a Digilux 3. I have to say that
> much to my
> surprise I did not order a M8 and was pleasantly surprised with the
> Digilux.
> With a little reflection I decided I am unlikely to buy either
> camera. At
> the same time, I am unsure I can afford a DMR and a suitable suite
> of R-lens
> to go with it.
>
> I have two problems with the M8; price and the viewfinder. I wear
> glasses
> and I use a Leica M6 TLL 0.58 body with my 35mm lens; with that
> combination
> I am comfortable. While my 50mm lens works well on my 0.72 body I
> was not
> relaxed with the 35mm lens on that body. The M8's 0.68 viewfinder
> leaves me
> with the same cramped feeling with the 28mm (35mm equivalent)
> frame. There
> is no way I will pay 3K GBP for a camera on which my preferred
> focal length
> leaves me uncomfortable.
>
> As to the Digilux 3 I have to suggest this opens up a new Leica
> Digital SLR
> world to challenge the Leica R world. I can hear you screaming down
> the
> internet lines as I write that! Let me stress that I am not
> suggesting the
> Digilux 3 is at all comparable to a R8 or R9 with a DMR - and yes
> the finder
> in no way matches the SL2 finder. My point is that the Digilux is a
> very
> useful Leica digital SLR for keen amateurs; guys who, even they can
> afford
> the best, are not in a position to make proper use of the best. I
> include
> myself in that latter group. As I aspire to do better I am still a
> Leica
> man. In my assessment the Digilux (and compact D-lux 3) will be
> money makers
> and a source of new Leica converts. On that basis I am confident
> there will
> be significant development of the Leica 4/3rds set of lens to work
> on the
> Japanese bodies. David's questionnaire asked us about the
> possibility of a
> "R10" with a different mount but had an adapter to take R lenses.
> Need I say
> more? The economics here is powerful. A Leica built - or
> commissioned -
> 3/4rds body with an ability to use special adapters for R-lenses?
>
> In the last week I have been tapping the minds of two Leica dealers in
> Manchester - both of whom had been at Photokina - and the UK Leica
> man at
> the Jacobs Leica Day. Here are some rumours and denials.
>
> - One informed dealer was surprised to hear of my hint at a R10
> (which was
> base don David's survey). (I can note this dealer was dismayed at the
> quality of the new 16-21-24 multi-finder for the Ms.) The UK Leica man
> denied the idea of a R10; it turned out he was denying a film base
> R10 and
> suggested he had no knowledge of a digital R10. He suggested Leica
> was in
> M8-mode.
>
> - A second dealer talked of a monochrome version of the M8 rather
> than a
> version 2. The UK Leica man was dismissive of this "rumour".
>
> - I heard somewhere that the planned production plan for the M8 was
> 2500?
> Was that on here? The UK Leica man pointed out that he aims to sell
> several
> hundred M8s in the UK during this financial year alone! The M8 is
> not going
> to be a rare camera! The Jacobs shop had 8 pre-orders by the time I
> left!
>
> I have to say I came away confident Leica has got it right, in the
> sense
> that I think they are on a path to financial recovery. While the M8
> helps to
> maintain their badge - hopefully without losses -- which allows
> them to
> charge a premium over Panasonic equivalents, I expect Leica to be
> running
> fast in the new digital world with that partner. I only hope they
> manage to
> produce a M8 with a 0.54 finder!!
>
> After all that here is my question!!!
>
> David writes: "the M8 and DMR (which I understand are the only
> 16bit cameras
> on the market below MF format) they are capable of more dynamic
> range than
> the best films."
>
> For me that is really important: any further information on this
> assertion?
> Dynamic range is one of major downsides of my Nikon D200. I was
> eagerly
> awaiting the Fuji S5 Pro in that regard.
>
> Please accept my apologies for the long email.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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